Speed limit exceeded sound alert

[stani]

 

[Lord Voltermore]

Its maybe too soon for meaningful figures, but so far, IMO ,its tending towards favouring  compulsory bongs  . Surprise eh?   

At the time of writing    3  'welcome it  '  + 2 'got used to '    = 5 votes  'for'  (arguably)

3 'hate it'  +  1  'bothers me '   =4  votes    'against '

I have excluded the one 'neutral' vote  although you could argue that  neutrality  is tantamount to acceptance   making it 6 -4  in favour .   - but I wont because I am not a politician   . As they say  "There are lies, Damned lies, and statistics"   

So maybe the 7 votes for' Ha Ha I'm pre 2024'   ( ,who also represent many other  readers who may be put off buying a new mk 4 because of the complaints about bongs  )  should consider that maybe the complainants are actually in the minority .   Same is possibly true of those who complain about other 'driver aids'. 

3 guesses how I voted   

[stani]

Lord Voltermore: At your next service inspection, ask them to upload the latest software (released after spring 2024), and then „we’ll see what tune you’re singing“… 

[Jazzik]

Have a look at this, stani... 

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[Lord Voltermore]

Lord Voltermore: At your next service inspection, ask them to upload the latest software (released after spring 2024), and then „we’ll see what tune you’re singing“… 

My car is a 25YM car first registered on 27 September 2024. It has  compulsory speed bongs.   Its tyres were manufactured in  week 23 of 2024 (3-9 june) so its unlikely to have left the production line with software predating spring 2024.

Some people find bongs more annoying than other people do.  You  are  entitled to express your  opinion.  Which may influence others  . Just as I am entitled to point out a different opinion   ,and suggest that perhaps more than half of 25MY  owners have no problem with the bongs .   Its nothing personal .

IMO some drivers simply  hate technology   'telling them what to do'  when they believe they are experienced drivers who know best.   I had this attitude knocked out of me in my early 20's  by taking an advanced driving course  (and then passing the IAM test  -Institute of Advanced Motorist - a well respected road safety organisation in the UK )   Advanced instruction can involve  'commentary'  which demonstrates just how many , or few , hazards you are actually seeing . Even the best drivers are seldom as good as they think they are and we often drive too fast for the conditions.
   There are plenty of 'commentary' driving videos on you tube  . Here is one rather long  example 

But I do have some sympathy with those who dislike  driver aids that intervene  with steering etc .  But these will generally self cancel as soon as the driver demonstrates they are actually in control.       

[stani]

I thought you had the Jazz until spring 2024 when you asked so "mysteriously" about your vote. 

I would also like to know when the audible warning for speeding started in 2024, April, May?...

[Lord Voltermore]

Sorry .Its probably an idiom more familiar to those with english as their first language. I meant, jokingly  ' can you guess from my opinions how  I did  vote '     I wouldnt comment on how annoying beeps are unless I had  actually experienced that system.  (nor vote on it    )          But presumably  the campaigners and lawmakers who made them a legal requirement did so without ever having one in their own  car. 

[Kremmen]

Is it just me or is that video above demonstrating how much road noise a Mini has

[John Ratsey]

I wouldn't mind the audible alert provided my actual speed is 2 or 3 mph above the limit. The problem is the very small speed margin applied to the displayed speed which is at least 1mph above the actual speed.

I've recently had a journey in a 25 reg Volvo EV which was pleasantly quiet. All the audible warnings had been turned off in the settings. This was done once and not on a per journey basis.

[stani]

John Ratsey: Sure. Other new cars have a permanent switch-off of the speeding warning sound: Renault, Dacia, Mazda... I don't think there is a law that says it can't be permanently switched off.

[Jazzik]

I've recently had a journey in a 25 reg Volvo EV which was pleasantly quiet. All the audible warnings had been turned off in the settings. This was done once and not on a per journey basis.

John Ratsey: Sure. Other new cars have a permanent switch-off of the speeding warning sound: Renault, Dacia, Mazda... I don't think there is a law that says it can't be permanently switched off.

@ John Ratsey:  I wonder what type of Volvo that might have been...

@ stani: Regarding Renault and Dacia, I'm absolutely certain that you simply cannot permanently disable the speeding warning sound. However, it is possible to combine several warning systems under a single button and deactivate them for individual trips.
BMW and Mini also have such a system: press and hold the SET button for two seconds.

In principle, tuners and technicians can often disable the speeding warning through software (like stani's guy), but not always. This isn't possible with every make and model.
Please note that if the software is permanently disabled, this means your car no longer meets European safety requirements. In the event of an accident, you will likely have problems with the police and your insurance company.

But... of course everyone has to decide for themselves what risks they want to take to no longer hear a few beeps...

[John Ratsey]

@ John Ratsey:  I wonder what type of Volvo that might have been...

EX30.

[Jazzik]

Since July 2024, new cars are required to be equipped with a speed warning. This sound, which sounds when you exceed the speed limit, can be disabled. But can it be permanently disabled?
The system must be disabled every time you start the car. Sometimes you have to delve into the menus to disable the speed warning, but manufacturers often offer a shortcut.
Some people believe it would be better to permanently disable the feature. According to European law, it cannot be disabled. If the software is permanently disabled, your car will no longer meet European safety requirements, with the consequences already mentioned in a previous post.
So, that 25-reg Volvo EX30 was from before July 2024 or...

[Jazzik]

  

[stani]

This thread is about sound, about sound.

It is a fact that new cars must be equipped with speed warnings, but does anyone know the exact law and especially its implementation? I don't, that's why I'm asking. And it's one thing to be required to be equipped and another to be required to use it. Something similar to DRL.

And Honda actually gives me the option not to use this system – if I really consistently turn it off in the menu before every ride, then I don't use it.

And does anyone know whether the law and its implementation require both visual and audible warnings at the same time? Or is there one or the other? Or does one of them have to be turned on permanently? I don't know myself, that's why I'm asking.

And I just found out how the new Mazda cars have it: there is a physical button under the steering wheel to turn off the sound alert. Although it also has to be turned on every time it is started, it is simplicity itself compared to the Honda.