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Kremmen

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #795 on: March 27, 2025, 04:14:25 PM »
Totally agree

How can they tell whether an internal seal is leaking
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #796 on: March 27, 2025, 04:19:10 PM »
Totally agree

How can they tell whether an internal seal is leaking

Absolutely it’s not a ‘check’ item during a service; it’s a known fault which is covered under the recall notice from Honda and the only way forward is to have it replaced

I would contact Honda UK again and request/demand that it’s replaced by your dealer free of charge

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #797 on: March 27, 2025, 06:17:25 PM »
After receiving a letter from Honda advising me that my car would be recalled to attend to the brake failure problem, within a few weeks I received an email from my Honda dealership asking me to book the car in for its 3rd service and MOT.  They would also check to see if there was a problem with my simulator.  Apparently mine didn't require any attention.  Neither did they record an oil change.  I responded to an email from Honda asking me how satisfied I was with the dealership and I told them about the lack of recorded information.  I've not yet received a reply.

Did you check here https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/recalls-and-updates.html# your VIN ?

When I enter my VIN I get the following message:
There is an outstanding recall/update on your vehicle:

Abnormal brake pedal feel and warning lamp 'on'

Please print this page and contact your local authorised Honda dealer to arrange an appointment and have your car repaired free of charge.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #798 on: March 27, 2025, 08:53:55 PM »
Thanks for all the advice.  When I responded to the "satisfaction" questionnaire I told them I was very dissatisfied but nearly a week has gone by now without a response.  The Honda garage said that the light wasn't on so nothing had to be replaced.  I'll keep you informed.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #799 on: March 27, 2025, 09:56:33 PM »
This dealer is unfriendly to customers, not cooperative, illiterate or very stupid. Or all of these at the same time. I think it is high time to find a different dealer!
« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 10:45:05 PM by Jazzik »
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #800 on: March 27, 2025, 11:51:55 PM »
The Honda garage said that the light wasn't on so nothing had to be replaced

As far as I’m aware the light doesn’t have to be on.  It’s a known failure item that has been recalled by Honda and should have been replaced by your dealer

I would word a very strong email/letter to Honda to get it replaced by your dealer as soon as possible and at no cost to yourself
« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 11:57:22 PM by ninanina »

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #801 on: March 28, 2025, 04:45:45 AM »
Name and shame the dealer to warn others
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #802 on: March 28, 2025, 09:42:02 AM »
Bassets at Bridgend. 

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #803 on: March 31, 2025, 10:26:04 AM »
I've now had a reply as follows:

We checked your Honda Jazz; no error codes were found.

 

Honda are only replacing the brake simulator if error codes are found.

 

Kind regards

 

Adam White

Service Advisor

Bassetts Honda Bridgend


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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #804 on: March 31, 2025, 10:50:32 AM »
"Honda are only replacing the brake simulator if error codes are found."

To put it mildly: This is BS, BaSsets.

I would inform Honda (0345 200 8000) and find myself a real dealer!
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #805 on: March 31, 2025, 12:53:40 PM »

Honda are only replacing the brake simulator if error codes are found.


Or your VIN is shown against the Product update for replacement of the Brake Simulator.
Not all affected VIN are included as yet due to the supply of parts and will be added in phases.
But would be repaired if a failure occurs before hand.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #806 on: March 31, 2025, 03:26:17 PM »
Sounds to me like a break down (brake down  ;) ) in communication from Bassets . But I think they are following Honda policy.

 My understanding is as Steve_M says. Due to a shortage of parts and the time needed to make more , there is a waiting list of cars based on their  date of manufacturer .As parts become available  cars move to the top of the list and get invited for the replacement  , whether or not there are codes etc.  BUT  if before this  your  simulator definitely becomes faulty, with error codes etc  you jump to queue for rapid replacement ,ahead of cars not yet showing any symptoms. 
 
If the car  just happens to be in the workshop for a service/mot etc  the dealership may well offer concerned customers  some reassurance by checking for any codes or other signs of immanent simulator  failure .  But if they find nothing wrong  its not, IMO ,fair that  the car should still jump the queue ahead of others that are still waiting for their recall.   

Unless I am completely wrong I  think Honda still  intend replacing the simulator on all cars potentially affected, fault codes or not.  Eventually.

 The delays may be frustrating and unacceptable   but I suspect the staff member at Barrets did not fully understand the reason why the car didnt yet qualify for the replacement and didnt explain it well.   
« Last Edit: March 31, 2025, 03:28:22 PM by Lord Voltermore »
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #807 on: March 31, 2025, 03:43:50 PM »
From coravel's post #793:
After receiving a letter from Honda advising me that my car would be recalled to attend to the brake failure problem ...

This suggests his car has reached the top of the priority list, so the dealer's attitude is puzzling. Or are Honda sending preliminary letters warning owners that their car will be recalled at some undefined future date?

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #808 on: March 31, 2025, 03:48:03 PM »
When I queried that is what I was told

Some are receiving advance letters, but only when a letter is received with a 3 character alphanumeric code can you go to a dealer with letter in hand
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #809 on: March 31, 2025, 04:26:55 PM »
It really is a ticking time bomb but it seems that I have to be patient.  When I had my Mk3 Jazz I had to wait a year to have new airbags installed after a recall. 

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