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Karoq

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #435 on: June 15, 2024, 05:40:42 PM »
Thank God I got rid of my Hybrid HR-V and CR-V before this happened.
https://www.hondaforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2249&sid=b7a8ff988428e4f3aac99bd83de3a8e0
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #436 on: June 16, 2024, 06:01:02 PM »
Is it confined to any specific years?. I have EX model and my VIN has P in tenth position for model 2023. My mileage is a ridiculous 2,693, registered Nov 2022.
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #437 on: June 22, 2024, 08:39:57 AM »
We got the Jazz back, all repaired, I went though all the dashcam footage and found a few seconds of the mechanics talking about the fault and warranty...

'Short in the P.U. line', whatever that means, anyone know what that is?

The manager told us there is going to be a recall and that have been two other cars with brake failure in the last two weeks, hopefully there will be a recall and hopefully soon.

« Last Edit: June 22, 2024, 08:50:42 AM by Tox Laximus »

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #438 on: June 22, 2024, 09:34:50 AM »
Main dealers don't have electronic diagnostic people they follow the Honda service . This comment refers to the Honda fault  in brake pressure etc.
see the extract from Honda E Forum attached
https://www.hondaeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1568

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #439 on: June 22, 2024, 10:10:35 PM »
Despite the problems raised on here What Car's reliability Index for 2023 shows Honda 6th out of 23 at 95.9% with the latest Jazz being better than the average Honda at 98.4% so there aren't many better cars out there for reliability

https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-most-reliable-cars-brands/n26159

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #440 on: June 26, 2024, 08:38:05 AM »
I am looking at reserving a 70 plate Crosstar this week, and it’s my biggest concern. Worth taking the risk? It’s only my second car (second jazz)

If they’re doing a recall and action is being taken I’ll be a bit more relieved to be fair.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #441 on: June 26, 2024, 09:06:12 AM »
What puzzles me is, if I've read it right, we have seen documentation posted here indicating this is a manufacturing fault by the third party company that made this unit

If so then I don't see how Honda can charge when we have laws covering manufacturing defects

I read about successful claims up to 6 years old in the Which? magazine
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #442 on: June 26, 2024, 09:31:57 AM »
I am looking at reserving a 70 plate Crosstar this week, and it’s my biggest concern. Worth taking the risk? It’s only my second car (second jazz)

If they’re doing a recall and action is being taken I’ll be a bit more relieved to be fair.
If you have the option it would be better to get one of the refresh models (eg Crosstar Advance) as it looks as though they don't have the issue, and you'd also have the reassurance of some warranty. Alternatively find a dealer who will give you a year's warranty on the car. I had a 70 plate Crosstar until a few months ago and didn't have any problems but I might just have been lucky.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #443 on: June 26, 2024, 09:42:40 PM »
Hopefully a recall will be issued in the UK

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #444 on: June 28, 2024, 08:07:55 PM »
If I was to buy a secondhand Mk4 what year might not have this problem.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #445 on: July 03, 2024, 10:58:20 AM »
It appears that from the Jazz FB page a recall letter has been sent to Honda Fit owners in Taiwan …..just need Honda to do the HONOURABLE same in the UK.

See attached (you’ll need to log in to Clubjazz)
From the advert "Who knows where you’ll go?"

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #446 on: July 04, 2024, 01:21:19 PM »
I love the wording in that message. Typical example of the oriental attitude to the customer.
 It's a bit different from the sentiment of the UK operation,  "it's our manufacturing fault,  you've got to pay, we don't care what you think,   tough."

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #447 on: July 04, 2024, 08:50:45 PM »
Its corporate greed. No doubt someone has figured that avoiding paying out to customers claims keeps the bottom line profits .. how many people here are more concerned by hondas attitude to the problem and reluctance to resolve rather than the part failing ? Id guess everyone had a recall to replace the faulty air bag trigger mechanism on older cars -on my nissan at the time , nissan employed the RAC to carry out mobile replacements at the location and time to suit the customer. The competition is growing for hondas market share and honda is heading along a path to decline .

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #448 on: July 06, 2024, 08:45:39 AM »
. how many people here are more concerned by hondas attitude to the problem and reluctance to resolve rather than the part failing ?
+1 for this.I accept mechanical issues are inevitable in all makes of car.   Its Hondas apparent attitude to UK customers that concerns me more  .  I can understand that an immediate recall worldwide of all cars potentially at risk  may cause short term shortage of parts and  suitable  repair facilities/technicians.  But Honda seem to have given priority to markets  they value most, and/ or where  technicians are more plentiful and labour costs lower.
I dont know if its the cosy relationship that many car manufacturers seem to have with their  dealerships in the UK .Dealerships expect to charge mega bucks  for any repairs or servicing using the fewest possible technicians and facilities. Any customers that dealerships can  convince to pay for their own repair will pay more than  Honda or the independent warranty/servicing plan provider/administrator would pay them for warranty work.   And Honda/ independent administrator can increase their own profits by  discouraging  or refusing as many warranty claims as possible.

What I want  is for Honda to officially  inform customers whether or not their car is one of the ones potentially at risk,  with a promise that if the car breaks down  it will be promptly repaired free of charge within a day or two,  and that as soon as they possibly can all affected cars will be recalled and modified free of charge, however old it may now be or change of ownership.   

We are still only getting vague rumours  and inconsistent answers depending on who we ask (Honda or individual dealerships  ) Or how much fuss we make.  I was thinking passing my mk4 on to my daughter but wont do so if she faces a potential £2K plus repair bill.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2024, 08:51:53 AM by Lord Voltermore »
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #449 on: July 06, 2024, 09:58:10 AM »
It appears that from the Jazz FB page a recall letter has been sent to Honda Fit owners in Taiwan …..just need Honda to do the HONOURABLE same in the UK.

See attached (you’ll need to log in to Clubjazz)

Surely this is Honda taking responsibility for the brake failure problem. Could this letter be used legally to make a claim for any financial loss you have incurred due to this problem ?

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