Road departure warning

[Kenneve]

I’m sorry, but I can’t agree with your thoughts, re driving on ice & snow, I’ve never had the steering physically attempt to take over direction, more the opposite, where there is a distinct lack of steering and the wheel goes floppy.
In any case, why should we have to put up with a system, which can be inherently dangerous, for the reasons previously stated?

[Lord Voltermore]

Is that a bear right and you had to bear left to avoid it

better than a bear (bare)  behind.   

[Lord Voltermore]

I’m sorry, but I can’t agree with your thoughts, re driving on ice & snow, I’ve never had the steering physically attempt to take over direction, more the opposite, where there is a distinct lack of steering and the wheel goes floppy.
In any case, why should we have to put up with a system, which can be inherently dangerous, for the reasons previously stated?

I dont mean the effect is identical,  but it is an occurrence that prompts some form of pro active driver response, even if its just the decison to ignore it,or take a moment to double check everything is ok.    I know thoughts on this are deeply divided and I respect your opinion.       I just feel that  I'd rather a system that occasonally prompts me, even if its a false alarm than nothing  ,where  the first indication something is  wrong is when you go wrong   

[RuthieB]

RDMS needs a simple on/off switch as it often goes against driver experience road positioning.

That is exactly what I have on the 2019 CRV SR hybrid, an “On/Off” Switch…..and furthermore it stays Off until you actually turn it back on again; no defaulting to On when restarting the car.
So much for progress on newer Honda models?

[Jazzik]

My main concern is with narrow country lanes, where one has to pull in close to the verge to pass someone.
To have RDMS try to steer you away from the verge and into the path of the oncoming car, is to my mind downright dangerous and I just don't know how it can be considered a safety feature ?

You are expected to know how RDMS works and what is to come. You simply steer in the direction you choose and your Jazz does exactly what you want. Trust me, you really are stronger than your RDMS.
To find out what's coming, read (again?) pages 478 through 486: https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/honda-owners-manuals/_jcr_content/par1/textcolumnwithimagem_1653971839/textColumn/richtextdownload_90f/file.res/2021%20Jazz%20Owner%60s%20Manual.pdf

Defenders of RDMS say that the twitch of the steering wheel is easily overcome but it's disconcerting and can induce momentary panic. It has zero safety benefits from what I can see.

You know your Jazz has RDMS. You know how that works (see above) and then you tell me it can induce momentary panic?
PANIC??? 

In any case, why should we have to put up with a system, which can be inherently dangerous, for the reasons previously stated?

Read my answers above.... Yes, RDMS can be annoying, but dangerous...? Causing panic...?

Besides, it's sooo simple not to let RDMS intervene: It doesn't work below 30 km/h (18 mph), which seems to me a recommendable speed on those very narrow UK country roads when you have oncoming traffic.
Do you want to go faster? Use your indicator and see: RDMS does not intervene

[Jazzik]

RDMS seems designed for those who aren't paying attention to the road ahead and need a reminder to look out of the windscreen.

That statement seems a bit ehhh...
Anyway, we are not all perfect, are we?

[Neil Ives]

If you are unhappy about approaching vehicles on narrow roads, slow down. As stated, the Honda safety systems don't work at less than 18mph/30kmh

[Lord Voltermore]

I cant shake this vision of grandpa and grandma  having to be dragged from their cave to the new  fangled mud hut.    Until a cave bear persuaded them of the advantages. 

Sorry guys,  at some point folk will have to stop switching these aids off  and learn to work alongside the advantages of the technology.  With you in charge.    And the first step to change is  not being able to switch it off permanently  by default.  Thats too easy.
Personally I dont want to be the last surviving driver unable to use ACC or other aids .  (Although I'd quite like to be the oldest person driving a vintage car that doesnt have it)

I can understand those who dont want added complications  or new learning curves   . And a system that adds   extra unexpected occurrences of its own seems counter productive.

My wife and I have learned to accept the occasional warning wobble on the steering,or warning light  or slight tendency to steer away ( -easily over ridden,)  as normal .  It really doesnt happen that often for me  and has improved with experience,It also  helps that my wife, when passenger, no longer assumes it is  always due to my bad driving.

[peteo48]

Some good points Lord V.

I will have to conduct a thorough review of my inner Luddite.

[Jazzik]

It seems you are not alone here. One of many...

[Neil Ives]

Anyway, we are not all perfect, are we?

Funny that you mention that but, yes, I am practically perfect in every way 

[Topgun]

For what it's worth, here are my thoughts on the subject. I have a narrow (just wide enough for two vehicles with a tiny amount to spare) country lane near to me, which I drive down regularly. It has a 40mph speed limit and a solid white line painted on the nearside in both directions. Quite regularly, an oncoming vehicle will straddle the middle white line and encroach on my side of the road. This tends to either be a larger vehicle, a Transit van say, or a car being driven by someone who thinks it is twice as wide as it actually is! Because of this, I tend to drive with my nearside wheel on, or slightly over, the nearside white line. This, as I see it, presents two possible points of danger; I may scrape the tip of my nearside wing mirror on the hedgerow, or I may have a head on accident with a van coming the other way at 40mph. If I don't turn off the RDMS, for some reason best known to itself, the system thinks the head on accident with the forthcoming Transit van is the better option and tries to drag me over into its path.
As far as I am concerned, the system is not only useless but downright dangerous. It is not, by any means, fit for purpose. The ability to turn it off permanently should be the absolute minimum requirement, imho...

[Jazzik]

Can we really blame our RDMS for ridiculous country "roads"

or "inventive" Dutch local roads with "bicycle lanes"?

[RuthieB]

Can we really blame our RDMS for ridiculous country "roads"

Ha,ha……….maybe not but we can certainly blame the Garmin built in SatNav for trying to take us down said “ridiculous country roads” in the first place when more logical and easier to drive routes exist!

[Jazzik]

we can certainly blame the Garmin built in SatNav for trying to take us down said “ridiculous country roads” in the first place when more logical and easier to drive routes exist!

Our Garmin gives a few route options. It's seems to be a matter of choosing the right one...