Road departure warning

[Jazzik]

my mantra is "if in doubt, don't"

I took a friend's mantra and (try to...) put it into practice: "always let the idiots go". Even when they don't indicate...

[richardfrost]

When driving on a narrow country road where there may not be comfortable room to pass an oncoming vehicle the only safe thing to do is slow down, maybe even pull right over and stop until they've passed. I do this quite often; if only to make a point that they are travelling too fast and if they collide with my stationary car the fault will be all theirs. RDMS doesn't come into that scenario.

This behaviour really winds me up. If you stop at a location where the road is wide enough, then fine. Too many times though, almost daily round here in the high Pennines, people who are not confident with their driving stop immediately and expect you to squeeze past them, when actually there is a wider passing point between where they are and where I am, and yet they refuse to move forwards, sticking to the belief that the car which is moving is at fault. Try proving that to your insurer when it is their word against yours. It will end up as knock for knock in most cases.

[Neil Ives]

When driving on a narrow country road where there may not be comfortable room to pass an oncoming vehicle the only safe thing to do is slow down, maybe even pull right over and stop until they've passed. I do this quite often; if only to make a point that they are travelling too fast and if they collide with my stationary car the fault will be all theirs. RDMS doesn't come into that scenario.

This behaviour really winds me up. If you stop at a location where the road is wide enough, then fine. Too many times though, almost daily round here in the high Pennines, people who are not confident with their driving stop immediately and expect you to squeeze past them, when actually there is a wider passing point between where they are and where I am, and yet they refuse to move forwards, sticking to the belief that the car which is moving is at fault. Try proving that to your insurer when it is their word against yours. It will end up as knock for knock in most cases.

If someone is tearing toward me at breakneck speed on a road that is not wide enough to pass safely, (in my opinion) , I will just stop in the middle of the road if neccessary.

[Mouse]

It is clear that the rules may differ from country to country.
Here in Poland (and also in Germany and the Netherlands) you are obliged to indicate when you leave your lane (even if only partially, for example to pass a cyclist). It doesn't matter whether there is other traffic or not, it's just an obligation. And the result is no wobbly steering wheel, because you indicated.

So here's probably what happened in your case with the lorry. You (partly or almost) left your lane, (almost or completely) crossed the line and your Lane Keeping Assist System did its job.

And great that you gave this link!
https://www.iam-bristol.org.uk/index.php/articles/associate-s-guide/56-signalling
I started reading from the beginning and surprise, surprise!!! What do I read in the first paragraph?

The purpose of signals is to‘…inform other road users of your presence and intentions.'

Obvious isn't it! "Give a signal whenever it could benefit other road users. You may also need to give a signal to override lane-changing technology" (Roadcraft 2020 page 152). https://www.police-foundation.org.uk/project/roadcraft/

We have a more relaxed attitude to indicating in the UK than the Germans which may be why we have a lower rate of accidents than Germany, Netherlands and Poland which 3 times the rate of accidents compared to the UK.... 

[richardfrost]

If someone is tearing toward me at breakneck speed on a road that is not wide enough to pass safely, (in my opinion) , I will just stop in the middle of the road if neccessary.

Yes, speed is the issue. Locals like me on these roads know where speed is OK and where it isn't. We know where the best passing points are and where the bad bends are. The problem is usually down to really timid drivers not normally on this type of road or 'rat run' merchants trying to save a minute or two on a commute by nipping down a lane.

[Lord Voltermore]

We have a more relaxed attitude to indicating in the UK than the Germans which may be why we have a lower rate of accidents than Germany, Netherlands and Poland which 3 times the rate of accidents compared to the UK.... 

I have often wondered how the uk has such a low road death rate. Pretty much the best in the world if you exclude some small island and city states where you cant really drive fast.   But its certainly not due to indicating 

I havnt driven enough in Netherlands and Poland to comment.  But Germany the reason is obvious.  Not only do they drive very fast on Autobahns (or are in very narrow contraflows)  but its noticeable to me how many drivers  are nervous of driving anywhere else, and cant drive round bends. If you are held up on a mountain pass or winding road  its nearly always by a nervous driver in a large and powerful German registered car.
Other countries with high death rates are even more obvious. The further east and south you go  the more drivers seem to assume that if you cant yet   see something it does not exist.    They  frequently  overtake on blind bends ,and even the official signing often allow overtaking until much too near a blind  bend    They also often overtake a line of traffic with no safe  'landing place' to aim for ,trusting others will  to let them in if they get into trouble.   

You cant generalise of course.And it only takes a few incidents  to push the statistics up. The UK has plenty of rubbish drivers.

[culzean]

We have a more relaxed attitude to indicating in the UK than the Germans which may be why we have a lower rate of accidents than Germany, Netherlands and Poland which 3 times the rate of accidents compared to the UK.... 

Are German cars fitted with indicators for German market then ? They seem to be an optional extra for UK models.

[sportse]

We have a more relaxed attitude to indicating in the UK than the Germans which may be why we have a lower rate of accidents than Germany, Netherlands and Poland which 3 times the rate of accidents compared to the UK.... 

Are German cars fitted with indicators for German market then ? They seem to be an optional extra for UK models.

One of the best things manufacturers did was fit animated turn signals - drivers want to show off these on their expensive cars so they excessively use them

[Jazzik]

The topic of this thread is "Road departure warning" or better Road Departure Mitigation System.

I'm afraid this topic desperately needs such a system because we are way off the track... 

[shufty]

...As RDMS works wonderfully another topic needed to be chosen

[Jazzik]

[Kremmen]

I managed to capture  an instance when RDMS cut in unexpectedly :

[plasma]

The topic of this thread is "Road departure warning" or better Road Departure Mitigation System.

I'm afraid this topic desperately needs such a system because we are way off the track... 

+1 plasma

[Jazzik]

when RDMS cut in unexpectedly

RDMS never intervenes unexpectedly for me. By now, after more than 5 months, I really know when it will become active.
That is why I also know when I consciously cross the line or go off the road, how to prevent that intervention...
Examples: reduce your speed to below 30 kmh/18 mph before crossing the line or entering the verge. At higher speed: activate the indicator for a moment.
If you don't do this, you know it   is coming, right? So, what do you mean by "unexpected"?

If I ever unknowingly would cross the line or go off the road I would be very happy with the intervention!

[Neil Ives]

If I ever unknowingly would cross the line or go off the road I would be very happy with the intervention!

Agreed