Author Topic: Dunlop SP2030 tyres - excessive wear on inside edge and cracking between treads  (Read 256176 times)

guest2765

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I wouldnt bother with Bridgestones horrible tyre brand and way too overpriced for my liking, stick with Toyo, Dunlop, or other good brands, personally im going to stick to Falken, my tyres are pretty awesome £45 each when I bought the alloys with them, probably looking at spending a fortune replacing them when the time comes (but well worth every penny)

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i had the same problem with my 09 ex i-shift ...get on to honda and complain they know they have a problem with the set up on the tracking of the jazz...your tyres should last longer than that ...i got a new front set after 24000 mls when mine wore down to 1mm on the inside edge of both front ..

guest3038

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Had the same problem with a 10 Plate Jazz, after 16300 miles, after only 2 years driving, worn on the inside edge to 1mm

Also 16 inch alloy wheels

Replaced with Continental tyres from etyres, asked for Dunlops at £83 each, but company could not get them, so they offerred Continentals at the same price, aven though the tyres were £13 per tyre dearer

When fitted had the tracking checked and it was out, so the Fitter re-adjusted tracking

guest1383

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The tyres on my EX have only done 10,000 miles but have worn severely on the inside edge. The dealer said there is a known problem with the Dunlops wearing quickly and suggested Bridgestones (which they had in stock @ £137 each :o )
I took it to an independent tyre fitter who did the tracking, which was way out, and he suggested some cheaper tyres which I may look into as I will need them soon.
On line there are a few to choice from at e-tyres and blackcircles.com

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The reason the dealer recommended his Bridgestones is because he wanted to sell you some - that's it. They wouldn't have been any better than the Dunlops. The business about there being 'a known problem with the Dunlops wearing quickly' is either ignorance or bulls**t on the part of the dealer.

The overwhelmingly likely reason for rapid and uneven tyre wear on the inside or outside edges, such as is being described in this forum, is incorrectly adjusted tracking, as one or two people seem to have realised. Simply get that adjusted (properly, by a reputable independent tyre dealer) and your problems will be solved. No need to go anywhere near a Honda dealer.

(It's perhaps worth mentioning that pre-facelift Jazzes do sometimes have a tendency to wear both edges on the front tyres. This is a feature of the design of the front suspension and there isn't much that can be done about it, other than swap the tyres front to back to try and maximise their life. I stress, this problem wears both corners of the tyre and does not cause the characteristic feathering on the edges of the tread blocks that points to poor tracking. If you have wear just on the inside edges or just on the outside edges, perhaps with feathering of the tread pattern, then you have badly adjusted tracking.)

As for what tyres to choose, get the cheapest you can find from somewhere like Black Circles. They'll be fine. We're talking family hatchback being driven moderately and sensibly (hopefully), not F1 racer.

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Are we comparing apples with oranges here. The thread was started regarding tyres for the odd/larger size EX wheel diameter (16 inch) that are not as readily available as the cheaper and more popular 15 inch variety.

Yes we are.  I'm really miffed that the tyres on this car are rare and expensive - I've learned a lesson and look at this when buying cars now.

I like to use Michelin tyres from Costco but Michelin don't make the 185/55R16 size at all and even though Costco have started to sell Continental tyres they only carry limited sizes in stock and this isn't one of them.  They did suggest they might be able to special order them at £90 but that's a similar price to elsewhere.

We only use the Jazz around town and the Dunlop's it came with are pretty shot at 15K miles.

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1st post on here:
I will be getting my 1.4 EX next week
My only reason for avoiding the EX over the ES was the wheel size
Why did they have to do that? - There are only a handfull of tyres to fit and
non of them any good in the Snow (unless you get winter only tyres!)
The Continental PC2 is an excellent tyre in all weather EXCEPT the snow where it
is nearly useless.
Does anyone have anything posative to say about the Dunlops? - they don't get as good
a rating as the Conti, Bridgstone, Yokohama, or Pirelli.
The Falken is a bit of an unknown quantity to me as well - but some seem to like it.
In reply to caseyjones - I had a kid run out in front of me once in the rain and I stopped
If I had certain budget tyres he would have been under the car - stopping distances in the rain
vary quite a lot between tyres. I know I may seem a bit OCD on the subject - but I feel
it is important as has been said before - it's a fist sized handprint between you and the road and its
important.

guest3250

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I am about to have this same problem as I will be picking up my 10plate EX next week.
Dunlops don't get rated quite so well on Tyretest.com - you can view via Mytyres.co.uk
Continentals are very good alrounders - had them for a while on my old Scenic and they
were excelletn both dry and wet - but rubbish in the snow due to the straight lines in the treads.
I am dissapointed in the Sizing of these wheels and tyres, I would be almost tempted to swap for
the 15 inch as there are so many better tyres I could get in that size!!

I am considering the Continental Premium Contact 2, despite the Snow performance; The Yokohama C-drive - which is nearly as good but a little more comfortable, or the Pirelli P6 - which is slightly better in the snow.

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Does anyone have anything posative to say about the Dunlops? - they don't get as good
a rating as the Conti, Bridgstone, Yokohama, or Pirelli.

Our car had Dunlop SP2030's on from new and went through 2 bad winters with no problems at all.  Although it's rated as a summer tyre, it's sold as All Season in some places.

The only bad thing is they haven't lasted many miles, but then the car is used mainly around town which isn't good for the tyres and the shorter life probably indicates the rubber is quite soft, which fits in with the good cold weather performance.

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Hello and welcome  8)

guest3250

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Rory - that is really usefull input!
I had all but written off the Dunlops on account of the few test reviews I have seen suggested they were less good than some in the wet. However, the tread pattern looks (to my OCD eyes) like they may do better in the snow than some...
If I had the 15" 175's there would be more choice and cheaper and I could use the Uniroyal Rain Expert
which has been stunning on my Scenic - excellent in the snow! as well as in the dry and wet.

I don't do a lot of miles - but was considering the Yokohama for it's comfort - but it won't be any good in the snow. The best other tyre I have used in the past was the Conti PC 2 - great wet and dry - just no good in the snow.

Rory

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Rory - that is really usefull input!
I had all but written off the Dunlops on account of the few test reviews I have seen suggested they were less good than some in the wet. However, the tread pattern looks (to my OCD eyes) like they may do better in the snow than some...

In Jan 2010, a few mths after we'd got the car, I had to do an early morning run to take wifey to the airport and the temp was -18C. The A roads I mainly used just had tracks worn in the snow to drive along.  OK, I didn't encounter any soft snow or steep hills, but the car gave me no concerns at all.   The evening before I'd had to push other cars up a slope, but the again the Jazz got itself moving with no drama.

If I had the 15" 175's there would be more choice and cheaper and I could use the Uniroyal Rain Expert
 
After using the car through 2 bad winters, plus never being happy with the ride on 16” wheels, in 2011 I got a set of 15” wheels off eBay seller autotyreman .  I put 15” Michelin Alpin full winter tyres, bought during one of the Costco 20% off sales, on and they were about £65 each.  The ride is definitely better but of course the winter was so mild they didn’t get any kind of test.  They’re actually still on the car at the moment, we were away most of April and it’s been pretty cold since we got back!
« Last Edit: May 11, 2012, 04:48:40 PM by Rory »

guest3250

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Was it very expensive buying the 15 inch wheels??
Maybe I will 'suck it and see' and try it out as it is first - it maybe OK
I will take my time when I get the next tyres (as I always do!)
and see how it all goes for the first year or two ...
(intend to keep this car for at least 5 years - more than likely
10 years like my last car)

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Additional/Update
I worked out that if I bought a set of 15" Wheels (reasonable priced around £260= for a set)
It would take me about 7.8 years to recoup the cost in tyre price difference
185 55 16 are average about £25= more expensive - depending on brand.
(I do around 6000m a year)
Currently the Yokoham C-Drive looks like it might help with the ride yet still give a safe performance
Be interested in others comments
I know the Conti PC2 from my old Scenic - I wonder how they drive on a jazz??

guest3250

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The EX Jazz, like some Nissan Notes - has an odd size wheel and tyre setup
So that means less choice of tyres!
May I suggest if you cannot get your favourite tyres for your car that you write to the manufacturer of
that tyre.
(EG Michelin, Uniroyal, Fulda, Kumho, Vredestein - not that I am promoting all of those)
I just wrote to Uniroyal as I was SO impressed with the Rain Expert on my old Scenic - even in the snow!!
If enough people were to write then maybe one of those manufacturers might decide to produce their tyres
in this odd size.

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