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mikebore

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Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« on: September 13, 2016, 06:59:28 PM »
I have now had three Deflation warnings. Each time I stopped and checked the pressures, which were spot on each time, and re-calibrated the system, receiving the "completed" message. (this is odd because p444 of the manual says the calibration process requires 30 minutes driving between 25-62 mph)

The first time it happened was when I drove the car for the first time on a long motorway journey very soon after getting it.

It did not recur until today, 3months and 3000 miles later, when it has happened twice on the same 60 mile journey. Each time I checked pressures (OK) and re-initialised. It did not happen on the return journey today.

I am ready to turn it off if possible, but in the Deflation Warning System menu the only options are "initialise" and "Cancel". The manual p444 does not say what "Cancel" means but I suspect it means exit the menu, not turn the turn the system off.

Any inputs?
« Last Edit: September 13, 2016, 07:11:04 PM by mikebore »

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2016, 07:50:21 PM »
I had similar problems initially, but it's settled down and behaved itself for some months now.  Unless of course I've unknowingly turned it off!

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2016, 08:29:03 PM »
Don't think you can turn it off as it is now a legal requirement to have deflation warning system - mine has activated only when new tyres fitted and when I had a slow puncture. Seems stable enough.
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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2016, 09:08:51 PM »
I agree with culzean, a legal requirement so no "off". Mine has triggered twice today, once after 30 Mins on a motorway, and after 20 Mins on the way back. It has not triggered before and my car is no stranger to motorways. The tyre pressures are OK but if it becomes a PITA the car will be banished to the dealer. Motorway again tomorrow, about 40 Mins each way.

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2016, 09:30:14 PM »
I've had no problems with it so far and I've driven over five thousand miles so far.

mikebore

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2016, 09:41:53 PM »
I agree with culzean, a legal requirement so no "off". Mine has triggered twice today, once after 30 Mins on a motorway, and after 20 Mins on the way back. It has not triggered before and my car is no stranger to motorways. The tyre pressures are OK but if it becomes a PITA the car will be banished to the dealer. Motorway again tomorrow, about 40 Mins each way.

Very strange that you and I should both experience double events today after long periods of no problems.

Perhaps something to do with todays hot weather ?...might be the warmest day my car has experienced.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2016, 09:53:50 PM by mikebore »

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2016, 10:14:11 PM »
I'm in the cool bit, only 20° and dry here. I initialised the system both times when the tyres were hot, when I got home the second time. I will start off with cold tyres tomorrow,  that should confuse it! The tyres are about 32psi cold, they were 36/37 hot. I hope they all go round at the same speed regardless of temperature!   ;D

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2016, 10:21:49 PM »
I've had no problems with it so far and I've driven over five thousand miles so far.

But my screen gadget works flawlessly, fingers crossed.

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 09:12:21 AM »
Very strange that you and I should both experience double events today after long periods of no problems.

My second activation of the TPMS was about 30mins driving after the first  initialisation. I am wondering if that initialisation was successful, having read the book it says the handbrake must be on to initialise, I can't remember if it was or I had my foot on the brake as I was on a flat surface so the second activation might have been self inflicted. I have initialised the system this morning with the tyre pressures checked, tyres cold, and the handbrake on. We shall see what happens.

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 09:31:07 AM »
When I did the two initialisations yesterday I got a message on the info screen saying "completed" both times.

My handbrake was definitely on both times.

I suspect you did succeed because as far as I can tell the only way to dismiss the alert message is to initialise. Turning ignition off and on again does not dismiss the deflation message. So if the message went away I think you succeeded.
 
My second one was also about half an hour after the first. I think this interval is significant because of the handbook saying the calibration process takes 30 mins. So it does suggest that in spite of the "completed" message the calibration was not successful so it sent a second message.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2016, 09:33:47 AM by mikebore »

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 10:53:54 AM »
I think it's not possible to disable the TPMS, as this system is compulsory in new cars since 2015.

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2016, 01:06:07 PM »
I called in to my local Honda Agent this morning in case it was a well known problem, with a fix...but not the case. He did say they had a lot of problems with the CRV initially because the system was too sensitive. He also said a lot of people didn't realise the calibration requires 30 minutes of driving.

My current take on this issue is that tyre pressures will drift very slightly over a few months and so it is not surprising that the system could trigger after a few months. Not that it will, but not surprising that it does.

The system is quite sensitive so if maybe one of my tyres was actually 0.3 psi over spec when calibrated and drifted down to 0.3 psi under, I might still measure it and say the pressure was OK. 0.3 psi is probably within measurement accuracy of an analogue gauge. But a change of 0.6 psi might well be enough to trigger an alert.

Regular pressure checks and reinitialising should therefore prevent false warnings. I will start doing mine every month or so, when I know I am about to drive at least 30 mins.

I can only explain the double events that Deeps and I experienced yesterday, by surmising that the first calibration was unsuccessful, which is why both of us had the second warning 30 mins after the first. In my case I had to do the first calibration with hot tyres, reading 36 front and 35 rear, since I had to pull off the motorway to do it. This might contribute to why the calibration failed. I did the second initialisation just before setting off home after the car had been standing in the shade for 3 hours, and pressures were 33/32.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2016, 01:12:21 PM by mikebore »

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2016, 01:28:43 PM »
Both my initialisations yesterday were done on hot tyres, and it did show "completed". As I said above I have done an initialisation on cold tyres this morning. I have since done two motorway runs with pottering before, after, and in between, and no alarms today so hopefully normal service resumed.

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Re: Turning off the Deflation Warning System...possible?
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 04:27:27 PM »
One thing I discovered while rummaging through the setup menus yesterday, my "A" trip is set to reset when refulled. If you hold the button too long it resets to zero but stays in the when refulled mode.

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