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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2015, 06:10:01 PM »
As my Jazz 1.4 EX has 16 inch wheels and having read about the prices for this size tyre, I decided to do some comparisons. What has surprised me is the different ratings modern tyres are given. Michelin Energy might be amongst the dearest but they have a Fuel rating of C and a grip in the wet of A Decibles are 68.
Just look at some of the other tyres  Most have a fuel rating of E and a grip C.
Not much between thy and and that ditch except them tyres. Nearly all the other 'expensive' tyres are the same  Fuel E and grip C.
There are not many tyres available in this size so I am saving in my piggy bank as I think it will be Micheliins.

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2015, 09:16:21 PM »
I had a couple of Chinese no-name tyres on the front of the Jazz. Needless to say they only stayed on long enough for the Michelins to turn up.

If the wallet doesn't stretch to premium tyres like Michelins, at least go for mid-brand tyres and try to stick with the same all round. It'll at least behave with some sort of predictablity then. Sir Mix-A-Lot may have had a hit with "Baby Got Back", but the same with tyres is a big miss. ;D

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2015, 09:42:49 PM »
Yeah,  I'm going premium with the replacement.

Got a wheel bearing knackered as well.

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2015, 10:01:12 PM »
Michelin tyres have 'high silica' rubber compound, which I believe they first used in their motorbike tyres, which gives better grip and more flexible tread and sidewalls, and also hard wearing and quiet.  Wanli tyres are probably recycled bean sprouts, water chestnuts and Tofu with a dash of soy sauce to give them colour.

The original Japanese Bridgestone and Yokohama tyres of 60's as fitted to Jap motorbikes and cars were made of a strange low friction plastic compound, were lethal in the wet and hard wearing - but the reason for that was that Japanese roads were covered with a much grippier surface than our roads are,  a bit like the shell grit found on approaches to road islands in UK (in Japan maybe made from volcanic ash from mount Fuji).  Just shows that what you need are tyres made for the road conditions in each country, rather than shipping tyres halfway around the world from countries where the conditions (heat, cold, rain road surface etc.) may be entirely different.
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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2015, 10:06:05 PM »
michelin all round on mine..

stick to makes you know best..

there really isn't much difference money wise...

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2015, 11:06:22 AM »
Our local el-cheapo tyre dealer says that is one brand they stay away from.  The MIF issued a bulletin a few years back warning about delamination of Wanli tyres in the extreme heat (a game reserve where it is 50 deg in the shade and a rough gravel road)

Another dodgy brand is ROGOR and also APEXTYRE
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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2015, 07:00:46 PM »
Ours had 2 Duran 185/65/15 and 1 Dunlop 175/65/15 and 1 yoki 175/65/15 when we looked at it.  The Dunlop and yoki were worn but the Duran still have tread. Got them to replace the worn ones with 2 new yoki 175/65/15 as part of the purchase deal. I have then replaced the Durans with matching Yokis to the other 2 as I have never heard of Duran tires before. I have learnt my lesson with cheap tires,  its not worth it

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2015, 08:56:04 PM »
hey Andrewbuch

you mean you had Duran Duran on your car??

thats awesome!!!

haha

(ill get mi coat)!!!
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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2015, 01:31:15 PM »
Thanks for the heads up on these tyres. Tyres are too important not to spend time researching before buying and although most people automatically stick with the big brands for confidence and reliability, it is sometimes refreshing when you find a relatively unknown brand actually performing as good as the top brands.

I remember about 10 years ago I was searching for tyres for my EP3 and in doing so I came across a brand that was relatively unheard of but had very good reviews. But it was half the price of the top brands, so I gave them a shot and was very pleasantly surprised. So although I would still prefer something from the big brands, I wouldn't discount the lesser known brands without researching first, particularly if I was on a budget.

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2015, 05:22:05 PM »
Thanks for the heads up on these tyres. Tyres are too important not to spend time researching before buying and although most people automatically stick with the big brands for confidence and reliability, it is sometimes refreshing when you find a relatively unknown brand actually performing as good as the top brands.

I remember about 10 years ago I was searching for tyres for my EP3 and in doing so I came across a brand that was relatively unheard of but had very good reviews. But it was half the price of the top brands, so I gave them a shot and was very pleasantly surprised. So although I would still prefer something from the big brands, I wouldn't discount the lesser known brands without researching first, particularly if I was on a budget.
Mate,  I don't think you've got the idea behind the thread,  it's the exact opposite of budget tyres being good,  they're not and are generally a false economy.

Wanli tyres from my present experience,  are basically dangerous.

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2015, 06:16:42 PM »
I think SuperCNJ does get the idea moob.

We'd all like premium tyres if we could afford it. There are also some non-premium brands that are worth a shot.

If you haven't heard of them then my advice would be to check out

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/

and see what is said about them. Or even just Google the brand and see what come up.

As you can see on tyrereviews.co.uk , there are four groupings:

Premium
Mid range
Economy
Budget

There are some rubbish European tyres in that lot too.

I think we're agreed that "Budget" brands by those above grouping are almost universally awful.

"Economy" tyres can be a mixed bag. I picked up a set a wheels for one of my cars (a V343) that had Maxxis (Cheng Shin Rubber Co also known to motorcyclists as Chin Shiners  ;D ) on the rims, so I thought I'd try them out. They're not bad.

So the advice to do some homework on lesser known brands is worthwhile.

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2015, 06:41:02 PM »
Ah well,  I'm lost then.

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2015, 02:40:35 PM »
Thanks for the heads up on these tyres. Tyres are too important not to spend time researching before buying and although most people automatically stick with the big brands for confidence and reliability, it is sometimes refreshing when you find a relatively unknown brand actually performing as good as the top brands.

I remember about 10 years ago I was searching for tyres for my EP3 and in doing so I came across a brand that was relatively unheard of but had very good reviews. But it was half the price of the top brands, so I gave them a shot and was very pleasantly surprised. So although I would still prefer something from the big brands, I wouldn't discount the lesser known brands without researching first, particularly if I was on a budget.
Mate,  I don't think you've got the idea behind the thread,  it's the exact opposite of budget tyres being good,  they're not and are generally a false economy.

Wanli tyres from my present experience,  are basically dangerous.

Mate, I do understand the idea behind the thread, I'm not disputing what you claim. I'm just saying that not all budget tyres are rubbish - although most probably are. I had an experience with one budget tyre which out performed the OEM tyres I had so just giving a balanced view on the subject.


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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2015, 06:48:34 PM »
Ok, got you now.

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Re: Word of caution - Wanli tyres
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2015, 07:58:17 PM »
Update:

Got 2 new Dunlop BluResponse fitted today,  and the difference was immediately noticeable,  more grip despite not even been run in.

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