Getting a MK4 perhaps.

[edam]

Im trying to talk myself into getting a MK 4
With my Mk3 I quite often "hand brake on into Neutral" when stuck in traffic mainly to keep my right knee happy.
How good is this "Brake Hold" thingy

[JB]

I find it very good, always use it, only thing I don't like is it leaves your brake lights on.

[jasonevans]

Brake hold works really well .
When you come to s stop you just take your foot off the pedals and it holds it there.
When you next press the gas pedal it automatically releases.

Going from a MK3 to a MK4 is quite a big step up in creature comforts .
I don't regret going from MK3 to MK4.  Especially as over 50% of my journey is stop start so mostly goes on electric with the ICE motor kicking in every now and again to give a quick charge to the battery.

Nice on a motorway as well as it's got adaptive cruie control so it makes it a bit more relaxing.
Plus you have got Andriod Auto / Apple car play etc.

[Downsizer]

I use Brake hold every trip and have had no problems.

[Nicksey]

I never use brake hold, and never will.
I much prefer the hand brake lever. On at stops.. lift up and away you go. Just like a traditional hand brake really.
.. and I'm not dazzling the driver behind me, nor relying on something that a slip of the foot would cause me to jump forward.

[Lord Voltermore]

I love brake hold in stop/start traffic. . You brake to a stop. Take your foot off the brake and thats it. The car doesnt move.  No applying handbrake,no depressing the clutch pedal , no going into neutral.   You can now  flex  both knees if you want.  But I accept Nickseys concern. You need to  be careful not to inadvertently  touch the throttle or the car  will move off.  But its not hard disciplining yourself to avoid doing this(IMO)   But when its time to move off you will really appreciate not having to depress a clutch , select a gear  or release  the handbrake. Simples.It may sound decadent and lazy but its amazing how much palaver it saves you in stop/ start traffic.  Traffic jams become a doddle,almost a pleasure 

Brake lights  do remain on  which could  dazzle or annoy others.IMO  this is only likely at night. If I find other cars are starting to dazzle me  I stop using brake hold so  I  wont inflict it on others. .  But the alternative is also  simple.   Just apply  the electric handbrake switch  instead at each stop with a flick of a finger.  Still no need to go into neutral, or release the handbrake when moving off. The car does this for you.   
 

[coldstart]

Im trying to talk myself into getting a MK 4
With my Mk3 I quite often "hand brake on into Neutral" when stuck in traffic mainly to keep my right knee happy.
How good is this "Brake Hold" thingy

If you are near a Honda dealership do plan for a test drive and give it a go (or stop)   yourself.
The MK4 is a joy to drive and truly excells in stop-and-go traffic while being very fuel-efficient at the same time!

[ColinB]

Im trying to talk myself into getting a MK 4
With my Mk3 I quite often "hand brake on into Neutral" when stuck in traffic mainly to keep my right knee happy.
How good is this "Brake Hold" thingy

I’m old school like you, I was taught to use the hand (parking) brake and I continue to do that, but I’m not sure I understand the problem you’re trying to solve here. Your profile says your Mk3 is a CVT, so you’re already well used to having just two pedals, both of which need your right leg & knee. I presume you then apply the parking brake so can take your right foot off the brake pedal (you don’t keep your foot on the pedal, do you??). The Mk4 is no different: you brake to a stop and then either apply the parking brake (which is a simple electrical switch rather than the big lever) or let the brake hold thingy hold you in position. So I can’t see how the Mk4 controls will be significantly different for your right knee.

Personally, as the driver behind you in the traffic queue, I’m not a big fan of brake hold because of the light issue. It’s hardly difficult to avoid it by using the parking brake, but so many drivers these days simply can’t be bothered. What does that say about how attentive and considerate they are?

[emp]

thanks to this discussion I tried brake and hold today. Works great. But as I understand it the break lights stay on?  I think I will then turn it off when having used it. It is handy sometimes. Automatic transmission alone is already way easier than manual gears. Especially when standing before a traffic light when the road is sloping upward.