dash cam question

[Toptek]

I have a Mk3 and fitted the cable as many have done, by inserting behind the door seal and pillar. Now I know about the airbag deployment area I'm going to try and simply route above the dash to the windscreen.
Would it be possible to push it behind the pillar or will it need to be fixed with adhesive clips as I don't want to remove the pillar?
If it can't be done, I'm going to remove the dash cam and inform my insurer.

To update, I've just been out to try this and managed to get some of the cable in between the pillar cover and the windscreen, at worst, the cable is compressed rather than inserted behind.
There's a length of cable from the windscreen, across the dash which then enters the rubber trim (we have a full size dash mat which covers it).
It works and hopefully has resolved the issue.

[emp]

I think you are talking about the front of the car. My current experience is illustrated in the picture below. I opened the plastic trim, but this is NOT necessary. What you do is open the car door and then pull back the rubber seal off a bit (at point A). It is easy and easy to put back in place.

When the rubber seal is pulled off you can see the bottom part of the airbag. Then you can lead a "cable guide", meaning a long tie-wrap or a stretch of metal wire from point A to B => BEHIND the airbag => or between the airbag and the car's frame. Where point B comes out between the front window and the car's roof lining. Then attach the power cable (or rear camera cable) to the cable guide and pull it through. Then your cable is not in the way of the airbag and you do not have to open the A-pillar trim

[emp]

I did not finish the rear dash cam yet. I am waiting for experienced veterans to solve my problems 

but I think for the Honda Jazz Mk4 we need to lead the cable through the rubber cable retainer tube at point A so it can enter the car's hatch door. Then there is a problem because in the MK4 there is no visible opening to lead the cable to the rear window.

As far as I know now we need to use the "tailgate trim". The tailgate trim is the plastic piece at point B. So the rear camera cable needs to go through the rubber cable retainer tube at A to the hatch door. Then it is inside the hatch door where we need it. Then we need to lead the cable to point B. This is the "tailgate trim". The plastic trim needs to be taken off to be able to use a "cable guide" to bring the cable from point A to point B. Inside that plastic trim we can then drill a small hole and use a rubber seal and pull the cable through to the window and mount the camera plus attach the cable.

I have not done this yet because I am waiting for people who have done this before I have or have alternative solution. Else I will discuss it first with my Honda dealer.

[5thcivic]

This was my solution to the rear cam.



That rear moulding has a groove at the rear that was almost big enough to get the wire out. I just tickled it a bit with a mini round file and the wire came out flush and fine. Take the cam away and you cannot even see the difference in the moulding. I was going to use some quality 3m double sided tape, but that supplied has stayed fixed for 3 and 1/2 years now and the camera view is excellent. You could use some mini self tapping screws into the plastic, but that would spoil the moulding. A lot easier than fixing to the hatch window.

[emp]

thank you, I will look into this idea

[emp]

This was my solution to the rear cam.

just checked, I have the same, these 2 tether strap hooks for the baby carriage. Yes it is a good idea the cable can come out there. My only worry is that it is rather far away from the window and also it's position is high. So the camera (when pointing horizontally) will just be below the top of the window. Also I would think it will be less stable than mounting it on the rear window, meaning it will have more vibrations.

But if you say the camera view is excellent I will try it out. Always can buy some more sticky tape if it doesn't work out. And mounting it this way will not damage anything.

I think I will try it out. Only other way is to take the plastic cover off the high rear brake lights (part number 34271-TZA-003) in the hopes that there is space for the cable there. But I did not have the courage yet to take that part off, afraid of damaging it. I will ask my dealer via e-mail if this is possible. Else your solution is the only way without drilling holes in the cars frame.

[emp]

this is also an idea:

https://v.etsystatic.com/video/upload/ac_none,du_15,q_auto:good/IMG_4177_n3qjth.mp4

[Lord Voltermore]

 Amazing how a seemingly simple task   opens up a whole new world of alternative methods  and ingenuity. 

On a previous car I had a dashcam  mounted on a very simple bracket using powerful  neodymium magnets . It did not move in use, but very quick and easy to detach if required ,such as when loading large items into the boot. No unscrewing or unclipping.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/178023948771?

[emp]

thanks, in my case the roof liner would be in the way. I mounted it as suggested by 5thcivic. Unfortunately when mounting it I had the hatch open and did not anticipate the high rear break light plastic cover would be partially in the way once I closed the hatch. I should have mounted it on the other side. Will do later. Will do a test drive first later today and watch the videos on my desktop. See if the quality is ok.

I am going for this route definitely but there are multiple ways to mount it. These 2 tether strap hooks for the baby carriage, when you open the plastic cover you can see the metal mounts. These are attached to the frame of the car so another option would be to attach a small camera extension mount that you then attach directly to the car's frame and then put the camera on there. But maybe I just do it just like 5thcivic has done it. Probably good enough (although I added some duct tape so that cover doesn't open at every bump).

[5thcivic]

As an update I have no vibration issues on the rear cam and the playback is perfectly clear.

[emp]

As an update I have no vibration issues on the rear cam and the playback is perfectly clear.

yes I just tested. Working great, thanks for the idea. Only thing is I need to reposition it. Because I placed it like this (pic1). So then pic2 shows a screenshot while driving. When the hatch door is closed the high rear break light plastic is (partially) in the way. I will reposition it later but will leave it for now because I am looking into possibly using a clip instead. This one seems perfect for this car. I might try it out (I post a tinyURL to the link because the link is too large): https://tinyurl.com/2s3884xv

[5thcivic]

As an aside on the Civics I had the same type of rear cam and no suitable moulding routes into the roof lining. There I mounted the cam directly in the centre of the roof lining where it was flat enough to adjust the cam angle correctly. I left the double sided tape, but obviously it was not enough on the felt surface.
The solution was a strong thread through 2 holes in the roof lining across the 2 screw holes in the cam bracket.  The other half had a very suitable curved needle designed for upholstery etc which went through the lining easily. I just tightened and knotted the strong thread in the roof lining so the thread on the outside bracket was just one thread across the bracket holes and virtually unnoticeable.
Again, selling the car the cam could be removed and you could not see any holes in the roof lining, and there were no vibration problems.

[Lord Voltermore]

 The rear window on a  Jazz often gets quite wet and dirty . Before deciding on a final camera position dont forget to check the view when only the wiped area is clear.  You might need to compromise   

[Kremmen]

This is why I stuck to just a single front camera 

[emp]

The rear window on a  Jazz often gets quite wet and dirty . Before deciding on a final camera position dont forget to check the view when only the wiped area is clear.  You might need to compromise   

true, but I think I only can mount it at the top area of the rear window. If I want other locations I would need to get the cable inside the hatch door. To my current knowledge this is not possible. Well I can get it inside the hatch but there is no opening to get it out again.

I will need to keep te car clean. In fact I was just looking into a protective cover for a car    Because I live in the countryside and we have cats, raccoons etc around here. I took in 3 stray cats myself. But they walk in and out of the house and not sure if it is them or other stray cats that walk all over my car. With muddy paws.  It is a lot of work to put a protective cover on top of the car (I guess) but maybe I buy one. One that also is resistant to hail    like this one:
https://www.ideal-cover.com/nl/autohagelhoes-honda-jazz-mk4-coverlux-p60383.html

I do not mind the mud but they slip on the surface and then cause scratches.