Honda To keep developing Hybrids?

[RuthieB]

Found on a sister forum for CRV owners, it appears that Honda is slowing down its development of full electric vehicles and maintaining development of hybrids, see link

https://www.autoguide.com/auto/manufacturers/honda/honda-walks-back-ev-goals-promises-more-hybrids-44620315

I hope that the next Jazz is still a H-HEV hybrid

[Tombola]

Absolutely the right path to take, ICE not dead yet and I bet Honda and other marques will keep shifting the goalposts regarding the phasing out of ICE. Toyota, Suzuki, Mazda seem reluctant to go all out with EV's and long may it continue

[Kremmen]

Govs constantly flip flopping between full EV dates doesn't help

[Hicardo]

There surely should not be only one solution.  Currently the government is all eggs in one basket with electric vehicles, despite the massive drawbacks for some. 

Other clean technologies are available.  One example, F1 is moving to renewable sustainable fuels in the 2026 season, and although costly right now, that will improve if the money is put into it. 

I still think hybrids are the best choice right now, and therefore Honda are making a great decision   

[Marco1979]

I also think hybrids are the best choice:
Let’s suppose that resources are limited. You can produce 1 battery for e.g. 1 Audi etron or produce 100 batteries for 100 Jazzes using the same raw materials. With the Audi the battery saves 10 l/100km, with 100 Jazzes you save 100 times 1.5 l/100km. That makes 150; 15 times better usage 
People still think that batteries are energy sources. They are not, they are temporary energy storage.

[Bristol_Crosstar]

EV's will be a no-brainer once they've cracked solid state batteries, probably 4 or 5 years away yet

[Jazzfan49]

EV’s may well be ok if you have the means to charge at home, but I for one would not want to pay £0.90p per kilowatt when on a journey so I will stick with Hybrids for now, I’m so impressed with Honda Hybrids that I have just ordered a new HRV to replace my Jazz SR.
The high cost to charge away from home negates any advantage of owning an EV, so a Hybrid would be much cheaper to run if you regularly travel longer distances.

[Lincolnshire Rambler]

Perhaps toyotas perspective of the future is realistic , a mix of EVs , hybrids using petrol , hydrogen fuelled cars using fuel cells and pure petrol .  No unique solution as driving across deserts  and artic extremes are different to driving across Paris or milan . They have developed new diesels as globally the need remains . The aygo x models are now ehev hybrids so it’s conceivable honda could make a smaller model using its ehev tech maybe in a replacement’ of the honda e model?

[Jazzfan49]

£26k plus for a smaller less well equipped Aygo-x you would be better off getting a jazz with it’s superior comfort, roominess, quality and drivetrain, if it’s anything like a Yaris which is noisy and cramped - my opinion FWIW 

[Lincolnshire Rambler]

I believe the hybrid Aygo X starts at £21k . I wasn’t commenting about any comparison with a jazz - just saying toyota have a greater range of drive train technologies available today which honda dont . The city car aygo gives toyota a model wirh very low CO2 emissions to add to their petrol ICE portfolio, something honda doesnt have in its EU model range currently

[Hicardo]

Yep agreed, the Aygo X hybrid is all round not as versatile car as the Jazz, but it has its niche as already described.  A big factor must be the 10 year warranty.  As you know we have just ordered one to sit alongside our Crosstar.  The Toyota dealers i talked to said the Aygo X is flying off the shelves. The wait list for factory order iro 3-6 months spec dependent.  In any case, theyre both excellent hybrids.  I'm in the 'hybrid makes most sense' camp.

[CB72]

I would like to see a Jazz PHEV, I would buy that, 40mile range would be OK for me. Honda don't appear to be big with Phev, as far as I know they only have the CR-V at present

[coldstart]

I would like to see a Jazz PHEV, I would buy that, 40mile range would be OK for me. Honda don't appear to be big with Phev, as far as I know they only have the CR-V at present

I would like to see a Jazz e:HEV with only a slightly bigger battery (e.g. 2kWh instead of the current measly 0,7kWh) in order to better benefit from longer downhill drives.

PHEV are an abomination in my book! They represent the "worst of both worlds": It is an EV but doesn't "self-charge" plus it has a fully fleged ICE with all its high maintenance gear (and weight)!

[Downsizer]

I would like to see a Jazz e:HEV with only a slightly bigger battery (e.g. 2kWh instead of the current measly 0,7kWh) in order to better benefit from longer downhill drives.

I suspect a larger battery would mean sacrificing some interior space. The existing battery has already reduced the former boot capacity.

[coldstart]

I suspect a larger battery would mean sacrificing some interior space. The existing battery has already reduced the former boot capacity.

You are right! (I forgot about the space aspect)