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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2026, 04:06:08 PM »
During my first driving test in 1967, a cat (no, not a black one ;D) suddenly ran across the road. I really had to slam on the brakes to avoid running it over.

The examiner next to me shouted: kitty, kitty, kitty, better watch out! And then to me: If I had braked first or you had hit it, you would have failed!

Fifteen minutes later I heard: You passed, congratulations!
It is really funny: apart from that, I remember absolutely nothing of the driving test, but I will never forget this incident.

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2026, 04:17:58 PM »
On my only test, which I passed, I noted the examiner had got me to pull up while he asked me a few highway code questions.

I realised straight away that we were on a very slight incline and he was waiting for me to slightly roll backwards. No chance, I know your ploy.

He also made it obvious when he was looking at me to make sure I was checking the rearview mirror. Again, when I saw his head turn I checked the mirror
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2026, 05:24:26 PM »
My cat story was a dog. On my second test (failed the first with going too fast) I remember we turned down a very long straight road, it seemed to go to the horizon, and way way up in front a tiny little dog started to cross the road, a long long way ahead. I came off the gas and touched the brake gently after looking in the mirror, and saw the examiner writing away in his pad. The dog was gone way way before we got to the spot, and I did not have to do an emergency stop and passed. Obviously he was impressed!

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2026, 06:43:36 PM »
RDMS would be rather disturbing if it activated during a driving test - would it be a “fail”? However, the 3-point turn and reversing round a corner would be a doddle with the reversing camera. I’m not sure if candidates still have to do those.

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2026, 08:32:59 PM »
At the age of seventeen in 1958 I bought a 1937 Austin Seven Ruby convertible. I drove it around insured, but without L plates, for several weeks. I never had a problem.

Before my test a couple of months later, I changed the semaphore arm turn signals, for those, "new fangled flashing indicators."

The examiner didn't like them and told me to use hand signals throughout the test.

Changing down required a slow gear change and "double de-clutching."
There was only about two inches of travel on the clutch pedal. It wasn't quite in or out," but close!

With the hill start, I was very careful. So I was a bit slow. The examiner made me do it twice. I guess he expected me to make a hash of it the second time, but I didn't. I don't think though, I did it much quicker.

As for the theory part at the end of the test. He only asked me two questions.

"What follows the amber?"

"What governs your speed at night?"

I got those right and he told me I'd passed.

I think they make up their minds sometimes, quite early in a test. The main thing they are looking for is the ability to drive with confidence.

From then on, sometimes my car had L plates on as I was acting as the "experienced driver" when my best friend drove the car. We were out  in it most evenings.

One Saturday morning, I was about to leave our house, when there was a knock at the door and there stood a policeman.
"Is that your car outside?"
He didn't ask if it were my father's (he didn't drive at the time).

Obviously the police had been told by a nosey neighbour that they'd seen me driving it, sometimes with L plates on and sometimes not.

He asked to see my driving licence. Those back then were the little red card ones.
He looked at it said, rather triumphantly, "This is a provisional!"

"Yeah...but look in the back."

Where he found a tatty bit of pink paper. This was my pass slip.
He looked a bit crestfallen then.

You didn't need to pay for a full licence until the provisional had expired.
His attitude immediately changed as he'd come on a wasted journey.
He'd probably had to walk to our house.

I was a bit annoyed that someone had grassed me up. Maybe they were a bit jealous, as there were few car owners in our road.

So I said, "Is that it now, as I'm going out?"
He smiled and said, "If you're going out, could you possibly give me a lift back to the station?"
So I did.
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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2026, 04:34:49 AM »
Ah, yes, reversing round a corner

That was the main reason my instructor used a Triumph Herald. You kept the rear nearside tail fin tip in line with the kerb and the jobs a goodun
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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2026, 09:13:21 AM »

I think they make up their minds sometimes, quite early in a test. The main thing they are looking for is the ability to drive with confidence.
I think thats true. They know from experience if you are ready to pass and may overlook some mistakes if you recover with confidence.  If overall they dont think you are ready   they will use these mistakes as the reasons for the fail.    But there must be some actions or omissions that will be  a definite fail. ( speeding, not doing safety checks etc)  Indeed many experienced drivers have probably fallen into bad habits and might fail if they ever had to take periodic driving tests. 

Ah, yes, reversing round a corner
That was the main reason my instructor used a Triumph Herald.
I always regarded taking your test in a Triumph Herald was cheating. ;D  They had the turning circle of a London Taxi, making three point turns  a doddle  .      I havnt noticed  learners practicing  reversing round corner or three point turns recently. Maybe its no longer part of the test. Perhaps they will modernise the test with things like ' responsible use of 'snooze ' control  etc.   :)

My only driving test mishap was on my motorbike test. Back in the day  when the examiner watched you riding  round a few streets making turns etc ,   I got a puncture and had to stop.  I still passed ! Sympathy vote maybe . But whatever. . At the age of 16 years 2 months I passed my test on a Honda 50 (legally a motorbike, not a moped)  and was now fully licenced  to ride any size of motorbike  (soon to become a heavy  100 mph+ Honda 750   :o  ) The good old days.
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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2026, 09:39:57 AM »
Nostalgia is not what it used to be……

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2026, 10:31:25 AM »
I havnt noticed  learners practicing  reversing round corner or three point turns recently. Maybe its no longer part of the test.

"The examiner will ask you to do one of the following exercises:
- parallel park at the side of the road
- park in a parking bay - either by driving in and reversing out, or reversing in and driving out (the examiner will tell you which you have to do)
- pull up on the right-hand side of the road, reverse for around 2 car lengths, and rejoin the traffic"
(From: https://www.gov.uk/driving-test/what-happens-during-test)

So, no more 3-point turns and only a 1 in 3 chance that the candidate has to parallel-park. Which might explain some of the parking attempts you see. Still, they have updated the test to require the candidate to follow a sat-nav for part of the route.

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2026, 11:12:05 AM »
Nostalgia is not what it used to be……

This is true.

I remember an uncle who learned to drive a truck when he was in the army at the beginning of WW2.

During his test, the examiner told him to stop half-way up a hill.

Then said to him, "Give me your pack of cigarettes." (pretty much most men smoked back then)

He placed the pack immediately behind one of the back wheels  of the truck, then told him to do a hill start. If he'd rolled back even a couple of inches, the pack would have been flattened. Fortunately for him when they stopped after a few yards and the examiner went back for the cigarettes, they weren't, so he passed.
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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2026, 11:47:56 AM »
Putting their mobile phone behind the wheel would sharpen up their hill start skills  ;D

When my dad learned to drive, in his 40's , he was supervised by an old boy who worked at the local crematorium.  Who had never passed a driving test himself . He was able to simply apply for a full car licence  in the 1930's.    The same man sold me my Honda 50 motorbike  when I was 15.  Ensuring his ongoing job security  ;D

I can remember when a lot of people drove 3 wheeled Reliants etc  on their motorbike licence.
A teenage friend did the same. His cunning plan was learning to drive a car (of sorts) ,  without supervison or L plates . This plan fell apart ,quite literally, when he rolled the Reliant after  less than a week. This same lad then found nobody would insure him for anything bigger than a 50cc moped. His  solution  was to buy a racing 50cc Garelli, that had pedals and therefore legally  a moped, despite having a top speed of 100 mph.(160kph ) :o ( This was before the 60 mph Yamaha  FS1E  mopeds forced a change in the legal definition to include speed limitations. )  We lost touch but I think he survived his youth.   ;D

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2026, 11:59:42 AM »
When my driving instructor was learning you the reversing procedure he
used to put a matchstick on rear parcel shelf standing up straight out of
the matchbox that was 1965
I forgot what I came to forget.

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2026, 05:17:19 PM »
Nostalgia is not what it used to be……
And probably never was...  ;D

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Re: Road departure mitigation - is it rubbish?
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2026, 06:46:17 PM »
I think we should switch our Topic departure mitigation system back on.... ;D

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