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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2025, 07:13:13 PM »
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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2025, 08:35:55 PM »
Paintwork i(std black) s an issue for me as well, I noticed lots of scratches on the inside of all the door handles.

Personally my finger nails are short and I never noticed those scratches on previous cars.

A comment on Facebook (Honda Add) popped up where someone had the same issue with a Honda car and a rep said they should contact Honda or visit a dealer.  This seemed to suggest a fault on their part.  But of course I can't find the Facebook post.

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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #77 on: August 04, 2025, 08:42:07 PM »
Soft paintwork and what appears to be plastic we nickname the plastic car.

Think Honda have a real paint issue - warranty claim perhaps.

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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #78 on: August 04, 2025, 08:52:54 PM »
I agree. The paintwork is very poor. The black roof on mine shows very fine spots in certain light, almost as if the varnish is lifting off slightly. The midnight blue beam is very soft, marks easily and shows up the slightest scratch.
I have had quite a few cars prior to the Jazz that all utilised 'green' friendly paint, waterbased and conforms to EU standards etc... and they never suffered like the Jazz.

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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #79 on: August 04, 2025, 09:14:45 PM »
I agree. The paintwork is very poor.

I disagree. It might have something to do with the colour. Our almost four-year-old Premium Sunlight White Pearl still looks like new, with just two very minor stone chips.
There's barely a swirl mark, and even behind the handles, it's hard to tell it's been used.
However, our car is washed (but only when it's really dirty) by a professional firm that washes by hand and uses the two-bucket method.
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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #80 on: August 05, 2025, 07:39:25 AM »
I agree. The paintwork is very poor.

I disagree. It might have something to do with the colour. Our almost four-year-old Premium Sunlight White Pearl still looks like new, with just two very minor stone chips.
There's barely a swirl mark, and even behind the handles, it's hard to tell it's been used.
However, our car is washed (but only when it's really dirty) by a professional firm that washes by hand and uses the two-bucket method.

I use Autoglym products, the two bucket method and finish with Meguiars.. so maybe it is the colours.. mine having the black roof too. I think the lighter white/sunlight versions offer a better look, and hide blemishes far better. I didn't want a black interior car though at the time, hence the blue.

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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2025, 08:04:23 AM »
I have Premium Sunlight White Pearl and the paint is bad, soft. I've been detailing for many years, so I know a little about it. My neighbor has a Jazz 2G in red and that's a quality paint!
Today's (Asian) paint s are of poor quality.
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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #82 on: August 05, 2025, 08:45:56 AM »
From what I've read, water based paint is not as resilient as the old solvent based

My first experience of water based was a 2002 Lexus IS200 that was shocking for paint chips
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #83 on: August 05, 2025, 08:57:03 AM »
Another Sunlight White owner here and nearly 3 years on it looks like new. I can't quite say the black roof has been as easy to keep looking good.

Waterborne paints have come a long way over the years, but many many moons ago I worked for a company that produced resins for all types of paints, I was in the R&D division and I have yet to see a waterborne paint that has the overall resistance and the properties of solvent based paints.


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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #84 on: August 05, 2025, 09:15:35 AM »
Another Sunlight White owner here and nearly 3 years on it looks like new.
What if it's not "Platinum White Pearl"?
Because before FL they offered „Premium Sunlight White Pearl“, "Platinum White Pearl" and "Taffeta White”.
Now only "Premium Sunlight White Pearl" can be purchased at FL.
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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #85 on: August 05, 2025, 10:06:26 AM »
I thought the paint on my 2021 platinum white pearl car was quite soft. A couple of minor 'dings' in the paint at the front of the car, probably caused by small stones, were more like small rips or   tears in a plastic coating   rather than a hard paint being chipped.  It may have been because they were all on painted plastic bumpers etc, rather than on painted metal  .(unsightly but not likely to rust.  )

But I find the Premium sunlight white pearl seems better.  No chip so far ,and not ,I think, just because the facelift cars feature more unpainted  grills/trim.     Also i think that even without waxing or other treatments   the premium paint stays cleaner for longer  . Water  beads better and even a shower of rain washes off a lot of dirt.
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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #86 on: August 05, 2025, 10:29:59 AM »
Ha ha... when I bought my Jazz FL with "Premium Sunlight White Pearl" and was driving home from the dealer, a stone flew off the truck and peeled off a piece of paint near the front fender.
I then went to a local dealer and they fixed it for me for free.

The paint is not good and in fact, ceramic protection with 9H hardness was actually a necessity.
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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #87 on: August 05, 2025, 10:31:45 AM »
I thought the paint on my 2021 platinum white pearl car was quite soft. A couple of minor 'dings' in the paint at the front of the car, probably caused by small stones, were more like small rips or   tears in a plastic coating   rather than a hard paint being chipped.  It may have been because they were all on painted plastic bumpers etc, rather than on painted metal  .(unsightly but not likely to rust.  )

But I find the Premium sunlight white pearl seems better.  No chip so far ,and not ,I think, just because the facelift cars feature more unpainted  grills/trim.     Also i think that even without waxing or other treatments   the premium paint stays cleaner for longer  . Water  beads better and even a shower of rain washes off a lot of dirt.
I had the sunlight white on my old Crosstar and never had any problems with marks, also I liked the way the hue changes slightly at different light levels, I'll go for that again if it's available on the next model.

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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2025, 12:45:21 PM »
Probably already been exhausted elsewhere, but it is the awful "pull" to the left or right if the driver happens to use the steering wheel to avoid a pothole or other obstacle!  If it is meant to prevent collisions because someone is looking at their phone(!!- illegal but is STILL seen happening all to frequently!), falling asleep or some other distraction, all well and good-not for the phone use tho'- but for narrow roads in rural areas, it's a huge annoyance, as if I am not capable of driving properly myself!! Also that the passenger seat is not able to be raised-infuriating-I like to see where I'm going even if Im not driving!

Also that Honda seem to assume all drivers are idiots! I am an experienced driver with an exemplary record!
 

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Re: What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?
« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2025, 03:01:55 PM »
It's not Honda's fault, the EU nanny state comes up with all these so called safety rules and all manufacturers have to abide by them, the crazy thing is they give you the option to disable them every trip  :o 

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