What bothers you about the Jazz Mk4?

[stani]

What bothers me personally is: bad software, weak sheet metal, soft paint, the gear shift "stick" (instead of buttons), small trunk space and a step in it, no more bright interior for FL.

[Kremmen]

I don't have any major complaints or issues

Drives better than any of my other previous cars

Not Honda's fault that the EU NCAP mandate that some systems must be turned on at every startup and must not be easy to turn off

[FMIB]

Hard plastics and the fact that buying it immediately broadcasted my age group.

[Nicksey]

Longevity..

I bought the Honda badge as it was my intended last car. I bought it on the companies previous reliability reputation..

However, a delaminating windscreen, 2 new mirror motors and an impending brake failure in a car 2 years old make me wonder about what other little surprises might be further down the line

Thin bodywork. It dents very easily. I use the Honda roof bars, and have noticed slight depressions in the sill were they affix. A dent doctor told me that Hondas now have one of the thinnest bodywork of most cars on the market.

The knowledge that after 3 years I have to pay a subscription to keep the Honda+ app.

I must add the crap paintwork too. I have never had a car who's paintwork is so easily marked and blemished. It has nothing to do with new regulations regarding paint chemistry either, because all my last four previous cars were using regulation 'eco' paint, and didn't suffer like my Jazz.

[stani]

Not Honda's fault that the EU NCAP mandate that some systems must be turned on at every startup and must not be easy to turn off

It's hard for EU NCAP to mandate not deleting radio stations or audio volume levels...

It has nothing to do with new regulations regarding paint chemistry either...

Well, I think the new "eco" (water-based) paints also have an impact.

And Honda coming up with a "new clear coat with increased durability".

[TonyH]

Longevity..

I bought the Honda badge as it was my intended last car. I bought it on the companies previous reliability reputation..

However, a delaminating windscreen, 2 new mirror motors and an impending brake failure in a car 2 years old make me wonder about what other little surprises might be further down the line

Thin bodywork. It dents very easily. I use the Honda roof bars, and have noticed slight depressions in the sill were they affix. A dent doctor told me that Hondas now have one of the thinnest bodywork of most cars on the market.

The knowledge that after 3 years I have to pay a subscription to keep the Honda+ app.

I must add the crap paintwork too. I have never had a car who's paintwork is so easily marked and blemished. It has nothing to do with new regulations regarding paint chemistry either, because all my last four previous cars were using regulation 'eco' paint, and didn't suffer like my Jazz.

Wow that's quite an indictment ....and here's me thinking of buying one, mmm...

[Karoq]

Tony H,
Me too.
Was thinking of upgrading SWMBO's MK3. after having 8 Hondas including
eHEV HR-V & eHEV CR-V but having read all that I think My move to Kia was a very good idea!! (eNiro) I'll probs get her a Stonic.
I took a friend of mine to Horizon Honda he other day as he was considering a Crosstar. While he was in the showroom I cruised the s/hand cars. interesting the number of e:NY1s and a couple of ZR-Vs.
The e:NY1 did not review well against other EVs in similar price bracket. Now we can see that at least a few people in Poole didn't think much of them.
Such a GREAT shame All my Hondas have been faultless including the last two (but I agree with the biscuit tin bodies on the two 'e:HEVs. Plus the inability for the 'app' to work.
My first Honda was a 3 door HR-V followed by the 'run-out' Ltd edition version of the first CR-V. They were all fantastic.
All this electric 'gizmology' is proving to be the death knell of many a good car maker. Jag and LR in particular.

[Kenneve]

I don't have any major complaints or issues

Drives better than any of my other previous cars

Not Honda's fault that the EU NCAP mandate that some systems must be turned on at every startup and must not be easy to turn off

I’m with Kremmen on this one.
My current Mk4 is for me Jazz No8 and is without doubt the best one yet.
My ‘Only’ concern is having to switch off RDMS at every start up. But obviously that is a personal choice.
I have to ask some of the posters on this subject, ‘why did you buy the car?’. If things like the ‘gearstick’ bother you?
All of my Jazz cars are/were Red, which historically is not the best paint colour, but again no problems with any of them.
All modern cars are designed to meet government standards and deform in a crash, in order to minimise any damage to the passenger ‘cage’. So why carry Kgs of surplus metal about, when you don’t  need too?
I have been driving for over 70 years, all sorts of cars, from Mini’s to V8s plus Landrovers etc , probably well over 1/2 million miles, and Yes, I’m quite happy with my current choice. 

[stani]

I have to ask some of the posters on this subject, ‘why did you buy the car?’.

Because in today's automotive misery, the Jazz is still among the better ones. 
But that doesn't mean it's flawless. And that's what this thread is about.
What doesn't anyone like.

[ledburner]

Light pollution:
When I stop the car & park up and put in Park. (Effectively as I would turn the engine off in a manual).
- I wish the headlight automatically would turn off and just leave the side lights on. This seems to be standard in German & Skoda cars.
It now using power that bothers me the led headlight are intense and potential dazzle other drivers.  Also causing unnecessary light pollution.  Like illumination the neighbour house opposite when I reverse park on my drive like we all should.

[ahavoja]

After reading the previous post by Ledburner, I realized that this also bothers me. I find myself often turning the headlights OFF after parking, by using the rotary light switch on the indicator stalk.

[Kremmen]

Just one thing I've remembered, the shiny dash

Maybe should have had a matt material of some kind

[Bristol_Crosstar]

Longevity..

I bought the Honda badge as it was my intended last car. I bought it on the companies previous reliability reputation..

However, a delaminating windscreen, 2 new mirror motors and an impending brake failure in a car 2 years old make me wonder about what other little surprises might be further down the line

Thin bodywork. It dents very easily. I use the Honda roof bars, and have noticed slight depressions in the sill were they affix. A dent doctor told me that Hondas now have one of the thinnest bodywork of most cars on the market.

The knowledge that after 3 years I have to pay a subscription to keep the Honda+ app.

I must add the crap paintwork too. I have never had a car who's paintwork is so easily marked and blemished. It has nothing to do with new regulations regarding paint chemistry either, because all my last four previous cars were using regulation 'eco' paint, and didn't suffer like my Jazz.

I'm quite happy with mine, the business of paint marking easily is probably because your car is black, mine is the same but previously my Crosstar was sunlight white and I had no issues with that.

[Nicksey]

Longevity..

I bought the Honda badge as it was my intended last car. I bought it on the companies previous reliability reputation..

However, a delaminating windscreen, 2 new mirror motors and an impending brake failure in a car 2 years old make me wonder about what other little surprises might be further down the line

Thin bodywork. It dents very easily. I use the Honda roof bars, and have noticed slight depressions in the sill were they affix. A dent doctor told me that Hondas now have one of the thinnest bodywork of most cars on the market.

The knowledge that after 3 years I have to pay a subscription to keep the Honda+ app.

I must add the crap paintwork too. I have never had a car who's paintwork is so easily marked and blemished. It has nothing to do with new regulations regarding paint chemistry either, because all my last four previous cars were using regulation 'eco' paint, and didn't suffer like my Jazz.

I'm quite happy with mine, the business of paint marking easily is probably because your car is black, mine is the same but previously my Crosstar was sunlight white and I had no issues with that.

Mine is actually blue beam metallic. It is the blemishes left by bugs, bird droppings and just the easy way it marks and scratches. My previous cars where (Renault) Clio in Valencia orange, 3 Capturs.. 1 in Fire red and 2 in dark oyster grey. All the Capturs had gloss black roof and mirrors... and didn't mark or blemish at all. All were water based eco paint too. The black roof on the Jazz is terrible, but so is the blue metallic.

[ninanina]

To be honest I can’t think of anything that really bothers me about my Jazz

I took months to decide on my next car to replace my Mk4 Prius

After lots of test drives in the end it was a no brainier to choose the Jazz. I really wanted to stay with Toyota but nothing came close to what the Jazz offered as an overall package

Is it perfect?  Well probably not but I absolutely love it