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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #75 on: July 05, 2025, 11:18:55 AM »
I wouldnt attempt to suppress or disable any speaker in this area in case it also  reduces the ability to talk to and hear  an emergency call centre.   

I have no current plans to use this system  but if  the car were upside down at the bottom of a ravine,and I was about to be eaten by a bear , I'd prefer  it to be working.    ;D   Or a more likely scenario ,if I activated it by mistake and the operator tries to talk to me to check I'm Ok,  they might send emergency services if my reply is muffled or absent.
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #76 on: July 05, 2025, 11:29:59 AM »
I wouldnt attempt to suppress or disable any speaker in this area in case it also  reduces the ability to talk to and hear  an emergency call centre.   
I have a simple answer to that: if I want to communicate with the emergency services, I just peel off the tape.  ;)
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #77 on: July 05, 2025, 02:31:42 PM »
This assumes  you are still well enough to peel off the tape.  Or you might not  realise  you have  accidentally activated the system( perhaps when cleaning the interior ) If you dont hear the 112  operator at all you wont know to peel the tape off.  If there is any doubt about whether you need help they may send  Police, ambulance and fire/rescue.   

Good luck explaining to the police that their wasted journey was because you  taped  the speaker to stop it annoying you when you break the speed limit ;D    You might not tell them, but they mayl be curious about the system that gave a false alarm which wasnt cancelled. .   

But for those of us who have lived half our adult  life without mobile phones at all, the idea is tempting.

But i found it easier just to learn selective hearing. I hear the bleep when I want it to be a useful overspeed  warning, and I  dont hear it when I dont  . eg because I know the limit is higher or I am deliberately being naughty   :-[
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #78 on: July 12, 2025, 08:02:23 AM »
So I was unable to locate the source of the annoying sound from the "speed alarm".
At first I thought it was coming from the emergency call unit. Then the TSR unit logically came out for me (where the rearview mirror is), but it's not there either.
It's coming from somewhere on the right side (left-hand drive), but I don't know where...
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #79 on: July 12, 2025, 08:07:07 AM »
When I had rattles on a previous car the best way to locate it was a length of tubing to use as a pseudo stethoscope

Obviously you'll need a passenger but if it's on the passenger side that should be easier

My guess, as others have said, is it's a multi function beeper so smothering it may stop other valuable warnings
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #80 on: July 12, 2025, 08:15:30 AM »
As I already wrote, it's not about eliminating it, but about reducing the volume (if it is not possible in software - in Settings).
I don't know who can say with certainty that this is a "multifunctional beeper with other valuable warnings ".
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #81 on: July 12, 2025, 11:33:13 AM »
The volume can be reduced in settings, but I guess for some drivers, even the minimum level may be too high.
I have mine set to Min and in most scenarios I’m able to disregard it. :( :(

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #82 on: July 12, 2025, 11:43:56 AM »
In the Jazz minimum level ≠ 0.
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #83 on: July 18, 2025, 07:46:30 PM »
Android Auto and Jazz - for those who are interested.

I don't use the installed navigation in Jazz, I already described it in the first post. I use Mapy.com instead (if there is interest, I can create a separate thread for it), because it is simply better, for me the best of all.

However, this can only be used in the Jazz via Android Auto, and this can sometimes be a problem.
Now I was driving and after a while Android Auto dropped out. I tried again, but again a short connection and then a quick disconnect.
Unfortunately, I didn't know the well-known "three-touch" (reboot) from memory, but even that didn't help later when I printed it out as a guide.
Note: the first time I bought a Jazz and connected my mobile phone, the dealer had to do this "three-touch" check.  ::)

I now have another phone (Samsung) connected to the Jazz with an original Samsung cable. Very surprisingly, it was this cable.
On the contrary, I read on the internet that someone had an extra thick and expensive cable, but it didn't work with Android Auto, they had to use the weak one from Samsung. But it's the opposite for me.
I have now tried 4 different cables and only one works properly: the blue one from Vention.



So it could be the cable, but I'll also describe other pitfalls.

The most secure connection with Android Auto is via a USB cable.
Set the following on your mobile:

In the Android Auto app, click on "Version" at the bottom, then click on "Version information" 10 times and enable "Developer settings".
Then click on "Developer settings" at the top in the settings (three dots).
Uncheck "Android Auto Wireless" and then check "Unknown Sources".
Then again at the top of the settings we can select "Exit developer mode", the previous settings will be retained.
To be on the safe side, set AVRCP 1.4 on your mobile phone (because the Jazz has an outdated OS - 8.1).
 
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2025, 03:47:22 PM »
Obviously there must be variations among every phone on the market, but I've never had a problem with Android Auto on 2 Samsungs, maps or music. Bought a 6 inch right angle usb cable to suit the dash on ePrey years ago and it just works, never need to charge the phone at home because the car does enough for me. The odd occasion the map blacked out, it was back in a couple of minutes after an automatic update.

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #85 on: July 19, 2025, 04:05:38 PM »
but I've never had a problem with Android Auto

So you are a "lucky child"...  ;D  Because the internet is full of complaints about Android Auto problems.
I would even venture to say that a simple layman would never have a chance of getting Android Auto working at the first minor problem.
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2025, 05:15:47 PM »
During my ownership I also never had any issues with android auto ...... when used with a cable

Android wireless was very slow to connect, if it did

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #87 on: August 21, 2025, 09:33:27 AM »
For the driver's display, most people probably use screen no. 7.

Unfortunately, the driving mode is not shown sufficiently here: there is only "EV" - when it is lit, the drive is purely electric, the combustion engine is not running.

When it's off, the combustion engine is running. But I'm missing an icon, an inscription, when the combustion engine switches to direct drive.

I know, you can find out on screen no. 4, but who has it permanently turned on.
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #88 on: September 09, 2025, 06:33:52 PM »
So we were dealing with the 'speed alarm' together with my good electrician and the Honda technician. They spent over an hour going through the wiring diagram, but it didn't help.

Most likely, the same speaker for the "speed alarm" is also for the proximity sensors.
Therefore, even simply reducing the volume by damping it with some material would be counterproductive.

So the only option left is for Honda itself to do it with a software update. Which unfortunately probably won't happen...  :(

Thank God for those of you who bought a Jazz 4G FL before spring 2024. But at the same time, be afraid of every update. 
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #89 on: September 09, 2025, 08:32:16 PM »
So we were dealing with the 'speed alarm' together with my good electrician and the Honda technician. They spent over an hour going through the wiring diagram, but it didn't help.
If the experts are willing to spend over an hour trying to find a solution I think they know that finding a solution would be a skill they could then sell to many owners.   
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