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stani

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Software - Jazz's weakest part
« on: May 25, 2025, 04:30:52 PM »
1 ) every time the car is turned on, a "Warning" appears on the main display, it's annoying and there's no way to turn it off.

2 ) System volume - System sounds - you can't set the value to "0", the lowest value is "3"

3 ) I also mind the volume of the turn signals, but there's only the option "high", "medium" and "low", no scale from 0 to 10. Almost no difference between "high", "medium" and "low". I have it on low and it's still quite loud.

4 ) the worst of all sounds is the "speed alarm" - it's extremely annoying and noisy. There's no way to turn it permanently off, you can't lower the volume.

5 ) the other assistant settings are also related to this - they can't be turned off permanently. Any excuse about EU regulations doesn't hold up: other brands have this option on new cars, e.g. under the "Personal settings" item or even using a physical button (e.g. Renault Captur, Dacia Bigster hybrid, etc ), or permanent disabling of either the audible or visual speed alarm (Mazda).

6 ) however, the worst experience is regarding the brightness setting of the (main) display: when the main display switched to night mode for the first time, nothing was visible on it at all, I thought it was broken! Only after searching forums did I find out that although the main display has display settings and therefore brightness in two places(!), it is still of no use, because it is controlled by the small display on the driver's side. Unbelievable... However, there is no mention of this in the manual. The brightness setting on the driver's side seemed too high to me (at any time of day/night), so I lowered it to 0, and it still "shines" too much. There is a scale of about 20 divisions, I set it to half, but almost nothing was visible on the main display in night mode. Only when I set it to 2 levels from the top (i.e. almost the highest value) on the driver's side and set the main display to full brightness in night mode, it works. But the price for that is that it shines on the driver's side... It is also interesting that the brightness setting on the driver's side has almost no effect on the brightness setting on the main display for daytime mode.

7 ) Even with a large range of brightness settings on the driver's display, I can hardly see any difference between the highest value and 0.

8 ) No applications can be installed, although there is an "application installer". For example, Mapy.com would definitely be better than native navigation, and should work normally on the given system.

9 ) Native navigation - audio instructions, the voice seems to be speaking "from a barrel", there is no way to correct it (bass, treble). Also in Route options - Route preferences - unchecked Toll roads, yet the navigation navigated along a toll highway...

10 ) Impossibility delete positions at FM radio

11 ) Is missing automatic car locking (after a certain time interval) if I forget to lock it. /instead there is this weird function/

12) On screen # 7 (but actually on the others as well), the driver's display lacks a simple display of the mode in which the car is currently driving.  On that screen #7, only EV Drive is shown. But all three should be displayed there: EV Drive, Hybrid Drive, Engine direct Drive. 

13 ) Some problems with updates

14 ) Opening/closing windows with key feature is only available as a premium feature, although it's not some extra add-on, but just a (pre-programmed) software thing.

15) Auto-Wipers interval

16) Constant problems with Android Auto.



What bothers me the most is the "speed alarm"... It's extremely disruptive, extremely annoying. I wouldn't mind the notification on the display, but the terrible sound… If only it could be turned off or at least reduced to a more acceptable level.

Sorry for my English. 
« Last Edit: December 15, 2025, 03:25:16 PM by stani »
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2025, 04:34:50 PM »
5) the other assistant settings are also related to this - they can't be turned off permanently. Any excuse about EU regulations doesn't hold up: other brands have this option on new cars, e.g. under the "Personal settings" item or even using a physical button (e.g. Renault Captur, Dacia Bigster hybrid, etc ).

100% agree. I don't need the car to tell me I am crossing the middle of the road, I'm looking out of the windscreen

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2025, 04:37:39 PM »
I agree, some Citroens have physical buttons to turn off the lane departure etc so even if mandated to turn on every ignition you can easily override instantly without delving into screen menus and control wheel turning.

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2025, 05:44:42 PM »
I think I’m lucky that my ‘23 Jazz doesn’t do anything too annoying

I have the speed warning but it’s only a visual flashing warning sign and no audible sound so I can choose to ignore it quite easily

All the other warnings I’m also quite happy with as they don’t intrude in every day driving

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2025, 05:51:42 PM »
I think I’m lucky that my ‘23 Jazz doesn’t do anything too annoying
I know, it's pretty OK until about mid-2023. From the second half of 2023, FL started to be made...
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2025, 06:54:34 PM »
When I read about this speed alarm I'm glad that my current Jazz will be my last car ever

I've had 56 years of accident free motoring and I reckon I've driven around a million miles

When I moved last year the requirements list was to be within walking distance of a retail park with a major supermarket and a bus stop with frequent buses ....... all achieved

Once all house renovation completed so no tip or DIY runs, car is going as I'm now doing less than 20 miles a month tip/DIY

Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2025, 10:55:19 PM »
1) every time the car is turned on, a "Warning" appears on the main display, it's annoying and there's no way to turn it off.
I agree. This warning box also annoys me when I start the car and just want to type an address to the navigation system. It reminds me of those "We use cookies" banners on webpages.

3) I also mind the volume of the turn signals, but there's only the option "high", "medium" and "low", no scale from 0 to 10. I have it on low and it's still quite loud.
I also wish there was a lower than "low" setting. I have it set to low. In slow city driving the turn signal sound annoys me enough that I don't want to leave it on for long periods of time, for example when waiting at traffic lights. However, on a fast, rough and loud motorway that "low" setting can be too quiet, and I can't hear whether my turning signal is on or off. It would be nice if it could automatically become louder when driving fast and quieter when driving slowly.

6) however, the worst experience is regarding the brightness setting of the (main) display: when the main display switched to night mode for the first time, nothing was visible on it at all, I thought it was broken!
I don't like that the main display only has a day mode, and a night mode, and nothing between those two extremes. I wish that the display could gradually adjust the brightness depending on the weather or brightness of the sky. In the evening and morning there can be situations when the day mode is too bright but the night mode is too dim.

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2025, 05:28:08 AM »
I know, it's pretty OK until about mid-2023. From the second half of 2023, FL started to be made...
The facelift models made in 2023 (in Honda speak: model year 2024) don't have the speed alarm.
Starting with model year 2025 (that is: cars built from spring 2024 forward) did Honda comply with the new EU regulations and introduced the speed alarm.

Like ninanina I own a "pre-speed-alarm" MY24 facelift Jazz Advance built in 2023 and am enjoying it :)


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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2025, 06:39:16 AM »
I think I’m lucky that my ‘23 Jazz doesn’t do anything too annoying

I have the speed warning but it’s only a visual flashing warning sign and no audible sound so I can choose to ignore it quite easily

All the other warnings I’m also quite happy with as they don’t intrude in every day driving

Totally agree

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2025, 10:40:02 AM »
I know, it's pretty OK until about mid-2023. From the second half of 2023, FL started to be made...
The facelift models made in 2023 (in Honda speak: model year 2024) don't have the speed alarm.
Starting with model year 2025 (that is: cars built from spring 2024 forward) did Honda comply with the new EU regulations and introduced the speed alarm.

Like ninanina I own a "pre-speed-alarm" MY24 facelift Jazz Advance built in 2023 and am enjoying it :)

I think the facelift version just before the speed alarm was introduced is the best one to go for which is one of the reasons why I chose mine

However it’s not the manufacturer’s fault introducing these distracting sounds it’s falling in with new EU regulations

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2025, 10:51:43 AM »
ninanina: Of course, but I couldn't choose: Jazz manufactured in November 2024, imported to my country in January 2025, purchased in March 2025.

Well, I guess not all manufacturers take the EU regulations seriously, see the posts above (Renault, Dacia, Citroen...), or is it different?
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2025, 12:14:51 PM »
Stani, I think the speed warnings can be turned off by disabling Traffic Sign Recognition, but needs to be done every time the car is switched on 

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2025, 01:59:41 PM »
Well, I guess not all manufacturers take the EU regulations seriously, see the posts above (Renault, Dacia, Citroen...), or is it different?

All manufacturers have to meet the regulations strictly to be able to sell cars in the EU. They have leeway in how to implement switching them off once automatically activated on ignition..

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2025, 02:25:00 PM »
Well, I guess not all manufacturers take the EU regulations seriously, see the posts above (Renault, Dacia, Citroen...), or is it different?

All manufacturers have to meet the regulations strictly to be able to sell cars in the EU. They have leeway in how to implement switching them off once automatically activated on ignition..
I’m just glad my Jazz missed out on all this shenanigans. I never feel the need to switch off anything so just hop in and off I go

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2025, 07:21:55 PM »


3) I also mind the volume of the turn signals, but there's only the option "high", "medium" and "low", no scale from 0 to 10. I have it on low and it's still quite loud.

 
I can't find any settings in the menu's to adjust the volume of the turn signals can anyone help?

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