Brake pedal noise downhill/uphill parking and reversing

[JazzySmith]

It is when I release the brake to drive or when I release the brake after parking. It is similar to the sound I used to hear when dry steering my prev 2004 jazz (not the tyre noise but the metal grinding).

[ninanina]

Thanks all. Good spot. my bad spelling of brake. Taking the car to the dealer tomorrow again. Let's see what they say. Will keep you updated. Many thanks.

What did your Honda dealer say about the noise?

[Jazzyone]

You don’t really need to apply and release  the handbrake manually. Set it to come automatically release when you start to drive and to automatically come on when you turn the power off. Also press auto hold before you start driving and when you stop this holds the car until you power down and handbrake comes on. I’ve driven the Jazz for 3 years  in this way and never had anything but the normal sound of the servo actuating the brakes when they come on.

[Lincolnshire Rambler]

Like others i only notice the motor sound when the handbrake / brake hold is applied . Have yet to detect any rumbling from the brakes . I find the jazz brake characteristics  super smooth and very progressive -easy to stop to standstill very softly. All adds to the driving enjoyment in my opinion!!

[Kremmen]

You don’t really need to apply and release  the handbrake manually. Set it to come automatically release when you start to drive and to automatically come on when you turn the power off. Also press auto hold before you start driving and when you stop this holds the car until you power down and handbrake comes on. I’ve driven the Jazz for 3 years  in this way and never had anything but the normal sound of the servo actuating the brakes when they come on.

A couple of issues for me :

1 ) Brake hold produces, annoying for some, permanent brake lights when stopped

2) Auto handbrake - After washing the car and parking in my garage, if I apply the handbrake the pads lock onto the discs and there is a loud bang from all corners and lurch forwards next time out. I just put it in P - no problem next time out

Not unique to the Jazz, all my previous cars have locked up after washing and the discs get surface rust

[Steve_M]

Not unique to the Jazz, all my previous cars have locked up after washing and the discs get surface rust

I always drive my car after washing to remove excess water from the brakes to prevent disc corrosion or pad sticking.

[Kremmen]

I'm just lazy, wash & polish then reverse into garage

[ninanina]

I’m having my Jazz washed at a local hand car wash place at the moment; they are very good and quite cheap

I have about a mile to drive home afterwards which should be enough to clean up the discs from any remaining moisture

[Kremmen]

I find the car wash quite therapeutic when I get round to it. I take quite a few hours doing it top to bottom, inside and out, nothing gets missed

A neighbour had her black BMW micro scratched all over by the local car wash squeegee they used on the paint

[JazzySmith]

Hi All, thanks for all your inputs. Quick update. We took the car to the dealer.The technician recreated the noise by releasing the brake very very slowly even on a flat surface. Apparently this is how new hybrid Hondas are designed. He assured us that it won't cause any problems. So that's that.

But one thing which I came to know was that the brake pads used in hybrids are 9mm thickness. I thought 12mm was the standard.

[coldstart]

But one thing which I came to know was that the brake pads used in hybrids are 9mm thickness. I thought 12mm was the standard.

Glad you were able to sort out the "grinding" noise!

imho it will take you "quite a few miles" to run (or better brake) through the 9mm brake pads as the hybrid Jazzes regenrative braking system lessens the strain on the normal brakes quite a bit!

So, unless you are a truly "sporty" driver (in which case you let yourself mislead by the car's name), I wouldn't be overly concerned about brake pad wear! - It is more common for the brakes to degrade by not using them enough (why certain forum members recommend to occasionally use the emergency stop feature to "clean" the discs by lifting and keeping lifted the "handbrake" switch, which will apply the brakes on all wheels simultanously - please don't try this at elevated speeds or while in traffic!))

[Kremmen]

I don't understand rusty discs lasting that long

On many cars I've had, after washing, the discs do go orange after an overnight garage stand, surface rust. As a result I do initially get grinding when going along the driveway (all auto box so using the brakes to crawl) but once out on the road the surface rust soon dissipates.

At my old house I had 1 junction where I normally had to slow or stop. Then a 50mph clear carriageway with a petrol station at the end.

So I braked slightly down the driveway, then light braking at the junction, then braking in the petrol station by which time all grinding had gone.

Looking at the discs they were all shiny silver again

My theory is that the pads run very close to the discs and the slight heat is all that's needed to remove any surface rust

[davejazz]

But one thing which I came to know was that the brake pads used in hybrids are 9mm thickness. I thought 12mm was the standard.

Glad you were able to sort out the "grinding" noise!

imho it will take you "quite a few miles" to run (or better brake) through the 9mm brake pads as the hybrid Jazzes regenrative braking system lessens the strain on the normal brakes quite a bit!




I have quite a steep hill near to where I live, and because I am not brave enough to lift the handbrake lever whilst on the move, I flip the “gear lever” from drive into neutral, and coast down the hill at perhaps 40 mph, with a medium application of the foot brake. (Yes, I am aware of the law regarding coasting in neutral)!

I will be driving sheep over Tower Bridge for my next breaking of the law!

The discs are still not as bright and shiny as most other cars that I look at.

Great car though, …..and that includes the brakes.








So, unless you are a truly "sporty" driver (in which case you let yourself mislead by the car's name), I wouldn't be overly concerned about brake pad wear! - It is more common for the brakes to degrade by not using them enough (why certain forum members recommend to occasionally use the emergency stop feature to "clean" the discs by lifting and keeping lifted the "handbrake" switch, which will apply the brakes on all wheels simultanously - please don't try this at elevated speeds or while in traffic!))

[Jazzfan49]

Just had mine serviced & brake pads worn down by 10% @ 24k miles, so may need replacing after 125k miles but I won’t worry as I’m only keeping for 12 more months. 

[Jazzik]

...as I’m only keeping for 12 more months. 

O? Why?