Mk4 issues

[shufty]

Q: (because I don't know)

If you're sat on brake hold and you need to exit the car quickly, would it stay with brakes on?

...Yes. (Brakes are on as in reverts to 'handbrake' as other have mentioned, I was already out of the car by then so didn't notice the switch  ) You may get a bong (more of a chime I guess ) sound if you have the key in your pocket though.

As for reversing. The mk2 was so much easier to reverse than the MK4 was.

[Lord Voltermore]

I believe a few cars auto adjust the door mirror aim to show the kerb when reversing.  But you cant have everything or the jazz would be expensive  ( ) 

I do sometimes adjust the mirror aim myself to see the kerb  when  reverse parallel parking.   

[shufty]

...The HR-V does that as long as you have the left mirror selected.

Has anyone checked that the newer model Jazz hasn't had that added?
If your mirror selector is in the middle or right then it wouldn't be obvious it was implemented.

[Steve_M]

Q: (because I don't know)

If you're sat on brake hold and you need to exit the car quickly, would it stay with brakes on ?

If you unbuckle your seatbelt, the system cancels brake hold and puts the parking brake on.

[Kremmen]

Thanks

Still won't persuade me to use Brake Hold with permanent brake lights

[aphybrid]

Dazzle with brake hold on at junction surely has a bit of justification if it stops you being rear-ended?

brake hold for me is a superb feature, a part of what makes automatic driving a joy.

[Bristol_Crosstar]

The only time I wouldn't use brake hold is when it's dark and wet when dazzling is a problem, and also on steeper hills.

Regarding reversing it's the best I've had although as others have said if you park it purely on the camera you end up either off-centre or at a skew so I always use the mirrors as well. Was interested to here about the mirror adjustment on the HR-V, I'll try selecting the left mirror adjust next time I'm parking to see if that works.

[JB]

I had a vauxhall insignia before my jazz when you put the insignia in reverse
it would tilt the left hand mirror down no matter where the mirror adjustment
switch was at, I could park easier and better with the tilting mirror on the large
car than I can with a camera on a small car more straight and level, suppose if
I wanted I could tilt the mirror down by using the switch but it was very useful
and handy when it tilted when you engaged reverse.

[aphybrid]

Q: (because I don't know)

If you're sat on brake hold and you need to exit the car quickly, would it stay with brakes on ?

I remember a colleague with a Citroen BX who had to escape quickly due to a fire and he was delayed due to being sat on the footbrake

Not tried it but imagine the brakes will stay on.
Regardless if car on fire first duty to self and passengers is to get as far away aspossible!!

[Spodric]

I don't understand the point of putting the "handbrake" on when waiting at traffic lights.

I do that to extinguish the brake lights. I don't see the point in them dazzling the vehicle behind, especially at night. I don't like it so I don't do it to others

Each to their own on this though

in 2002 I was rear-ended by a van while stopped at red traffic lights. The van driver failed to brake in time. I was in my Vectra. My car shot forward from the impact, but stopped just before hitting the car in front. Leaving a gap made sense. But ... Whiplash! 

The brighter my brake lights, the safer I feel. If they dazzle that's not my problem. I get dazzled by other cars, especially those with the currently fashionable "bridge" light across the back end.

[Lord Voltermore]

I think I have said before. If I find the brake lights of the car in front are  dazzling me, due to darkness etc, I will stop using brake hold so I dont inflict the same on the driver behind.   

Thats actual discomfort, not just  annoyed outrage that the driver is not applying the handbrake each stop as I was  taught to do 50 years ago etc. 

And I am judging my 'dazzle  tolerance ' as a 71 year old  , not a youngster oblivious that some drivers, especially older ones, might struggle more with darkness and bright lights.   

[RomanianJazz]

I think I have said before. If I find the brake lights of the car in front are  dazzling me, due to darkness etc, I will stop using brake hold so I dont inflict the same on the driver behind.   

If it's dark, you should make yourself less visible? Very brave.

[davejazz]

And I am judging my 'dazzle  tolerance ' as a 71 year old  , not a youngster oblivious that some drivers, especially older ones, might struggle more with darkness and bright lights.   

LV…..As you were born 1953 ish, most of us on here, would regard you as one of our youngsters.

Keep your interesting posts coming, before you get fuddled!

[Karoq]

I can't speak for the Jazz, but every car I have owned with 'brake hold', including eHev HR-V & CR-V the brake hold is a pointless gizmo. it will release automatically after a few minutes. If you happen to be pointing uphill it can be very embarrassing as you roll back into the car behind you!!  Unless you are very quick on the foot brake.
Far better IMO to use the parking brake which will stay on until you pull away and then auto release.
I sometimes wonder how on earth we managed without all this electronic cr*ppery they fit to modern 'horseless carriages'.
Actually having to move something called a gear stick whilst depressing a clutch pedal and steering at the same time . actually having to pull a lever to ensure the car won't roll away, let alone look where you were going when reversing and watching a speedometer to know if you are breaking the speed limit without bings and bongs warning you of various misdemeanours. But then I am 78!!

[Jazzik]

I can't speak for the Jazz, but every car I have owned with 'brake hold', including eHev HR-V & CR-V the brake hold is a pointless gizmo. it will release automatically after a few minutes. If you happen to be pointing uphill it can be very embarrassing as you roll back into the car behind you!!  Unless you are very quick on the foot brake.

I can speak for the Jazz. Brake hold automatically cancels after about 10 minutes and then the handbrake is automatically activated.
See the Jazz Owner`s Manual page 502:
https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/honda-owners-manuals/_jcr_content/par1/textcolumnwithimagem_1653971839/textColumn/richtextdownload_90f/file.res/2021%20Jazz%20Owner%60s%20Manual.pdf

So 'embarrassment of rolling backwards' is simply impossible.
I wonder if there was something wrong with your eHEV HR-V & CR-V or maybe they had a different (unsafe) brake hold system? Doesn't seem very logical to me.
Maybe you just write something and never tried it?