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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #405 on: June 05, 2024, 08:57:09 PM »
It is truly a shame, Honda (UK) hasn't assumed full responsibilty for this issue (yet)!

Surprisingly, I have not found any mentions of this failure on RHD european fora (yet)

My understanding is, that Honda have switched the manufacturer of the relevant part somewhen to another company (and maybe us RHD-contintentals got somehow spared the aftermath of the failing part!)

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #406 on: June 05, 2024, 09:31:50 PM »
You're right! I just searched the Honda Jazz Forum of MOTORTALK (German): No one reports this problem!
Would those who drive on the right side of the road be lucky?
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #407 on: June 05, 2024, 09:35:07 PM »
Would those who drive on the right side of the road be lucky?

well, after all: WE are driving on the right side  ;D

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #408 on: June 06, 2024, 01:16:35 PM »
You're right! I just searched the Honda Jazz Forum of MOTORTALK (German): No one reports this problem!
Would those who drive on the right side of the road be lucky?

Even though I don't live in Germany I find this quite re-assuring ;D

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #409 on: June 06, 2024, 01:19:36 PM »
There might be way to tell if your brakes are about to fail, five days before my brake failure I noticed when pressing the brake to start the car the brake pedal dipped two inches as the car is starting up, it useally moves a little when starting but never that much.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #410 on: June 06, 2024, 01:38:25 PM »
Even though I don't live in Germany I find this quite re-assuring ;D

Since I live even further east than Germany and we of course drive on the right side of the road, I have high hopes...  :D
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #411 on: June 06, 2024, 02:22:51 PM »
The same in Italy (for now..)
I've posted the problem in one on the biggest car forum but no one had or has this problem..finger crossing!

But I still hope that Honda Europe makes an official statement with VIN codes and an official recall.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #412 on: June 06, 2024, 02:33:23 PM »
Going down the left/right rabbit hole and speculating wildly with zero evidence, could it be due to a faulty batch of these products fitted to Japanese Honda hybrids (they drive on the left) and the UK and others. My hair brained theory would only hold up if right hand/left hand drive cars were produced in batches.

I am off to lie down in a darkened room ;D

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #413 on: June 06, 2024, 05:34:16 PM »

There was me worrying about buying a Crosstar a few pages back only to see HR-Vs are affected - I have a 22 HR-V and that thing has behaved questionably already with other things 😫

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #414 on: June 07, 2024, 11:37:57 AM »
Going down the left/right rabbit hole and speculating wildly with zero evidence, could it be due to a faulty batch of these products fitted to Japanese Honda hybrids (they drive on the left) and the UK and others. My hair brained theory would only hold up if right hand/left hand drive cars were produced in batches.

I am off to lie down in a darkened room ;D

All export car makers make cars for different markets in batches: there are specification differences between markets - so parts are different. Easier to run assembly lines with all UK cars, then all Australian etc.

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #415 on: June 07, 2024, 03:21:50 PM »

There was me worrying about buying a Crosstar a few pages back only to see HR-Vs are affected - I have a 22 HR-V and that thing has behaved questionably already with other things 😫

What issues have you had?


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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #416 on: June 07, 2024, 07:26:35 PM »

There was me worrying about buying a Crosstar a few pages back only to see HR-Vs are affected - I have a 22 HR-V and that thing has behaved questionably already with other things 😫

What issues have you had?

Car started on its own.  The neighbour came to tell us. We were in the house. :o I was blaming my husband for perhaps sitting on a key or something. He wasn’t.

Then a few hours later all the windows came down. In the pouring rain. Lovely. Kid spotted it when closing her curtains. 

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #417 on: June 08, 2024, 09:51:30 AM »


Car started on its own.  The neighbour came to tell us. We were in the house. :o I was blaming my husband for perhaps sitting on a key or something. He wasn’t.

Then a few hours later all the windows came down. In the pouring rain. Lovely. Kid spotted it when closing her curtains.
This is off topic on an already long post.  But I dont think it is a fault at all, and need not add to reliability concerns. 
     
If the car was in silent EV mode when parked  you may have forgotten to  press the power button to switch the' ignition' off when you left it.  It will warn you by bleeping, and not locking the car but  you might not have noticed. In addition the car might still be receiving proximity signals from the key, even from inside your house.     Thus the car effectively still had its 'ignition' on, and able to start automatically to keep its battery charged   in the normal way.

Something similar happens when you do switch the power button off, but forget to put the car in P .  Been there done that for both  :-[

I think its normal when washing the car  for it to repeatedly lock and unlock itself, if the keys  are outside the car but still in proximity range. So maybe if the car is left in abnormal circumstances  rain can affect the window sensors in the same way. 
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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #418 on: June 08, 2024, 12:24:37 PM »
As a frequent, nay obsessive car cleaner, I can testify to the car unlocking and locking itself during a wash. I kind of thought it was because the keys were in my pocket and the buttons were being accidentally pressed but even if I put the keys on a nearby window sill it still happens although not as much.

I sacked the window sill idea when I left the keys on the window sill once after washing. An open invitation to steal it!

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Re: Mk4 2021 Jazz Brake failure
« Reply #419 on: June 08, 2024, 12:47:17 PM »
As a frequent, nay obsessive car cleaner, I can testify to the car unlocking and locking itself during a wash. I kind of thought it was because the keys were in my pocket and the buttons were being accidentally pressed but even if I put the keys on a nearby window sill it still happens although not as much.

I sacked the window sill idea when I left the keys on the window sill once after washing. An open invitation to steal it!

Did know that while holding the fob or the fob being close to you will allow you to open the drivers/passengers/boot doors by just touching them?

Also if you unlock and don't open and place the key out of range the car locks itself after 20 seconds. (not 100% on this)

Also a note about keyless entry to lord voldermort, once the engine has started the car can be stolen, if you were to throw the fob out the window while on the motorway the car will keep going normally until switched off.
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