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Nicksey

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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2024, 02:16:29 PM »
I would certainly employ the feature if I ever had cause to visit Londestan.

Visit Londewhat?

So, just for you... if you see something like that in the distance:
use that manual button!!!

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No fear of that. I have no need, intention or desire to go anywhere south of Watford.

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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2024, 02:25:49 PM »
With the My Honda+ app, you can only open/close the windows remotely on Honda models which have the digital key function. This also gives alerts if you leave the vehicle with the doors unlocked/windows open etc.

https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/my-honda-plus/digital-key-subscription.html

This is not available for Jazz, only remote lock/unlock by remote command is available.

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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2024, 02:29:26 PM »
No fear of that. I have no need, intention or desire to go anywhere south of Watford.

Pity! You do not know what you are missing! Londewhat is such a great city!
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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2024, 03:59:23 PM »
My SR also only has door locked showing on the app; windows say "unknown".

I ALWAYS use the manual door lock, have done in every car I 've driven. From memory, I think Clios may have had an auto setting?
I am usually by myself, and feel far safer with everything locked.

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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2024, 04:28:33 PM »
How common is a Jazz carjack? In all my years of driving I've never locked the doors when inside the car.
It depends on the region you're driving in. There are cities, where people walk along the standing cars at big crossings and if they see something valuable open a door, snatch it and off they are.

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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2024, 04:36:28 PM »
Exactly
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2024, 04:40:26 PM »
My SR also only has door locked showing on the app; windows say "unknown".

I ALWAYS use the manual door lock, have done in every car I 've driven. From memory, I think Clios may have had an auto setting?
I am usually by myself, and feel far safer with everything locked.

All Renault have anti-raid. You drive off, and above 5mph the doors automatically lock and cannot be opened from the outside. You can turn this feature off by a single button. This was added in response to problems encountered in French cities with robberies, a problem in most other EU cities (inc UK) now too. Obviously, the Japanese are too trusting.

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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2024, 04:55:46 PM »
Obviously, the Japanese are too trusting.

Or they think that you yourself can make the decision to lock (manually).
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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2024, 05:26:59 PM »
From what I've heard it was the fire service who requested it to be stopped and Honda listened

The last Civic that had it was the 2006 8G, but that had to be a hack as it was disabled by default

The 2007 model saw the hack/loophole closed
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2024, 06:26:46 PM »
From what I've heard it was the fire service who requested it to be stopped

Which apparently means that the fire service also considered it unsafe...
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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2024, 11:38:32 AM »
Not sure the Jazz is high on the list of cars subject to car jacking. And if they really wanted to take your car there a plenty of ruses  such as a  staged accident which would trick you into getting out of the car.

Grabbing valuables from the car may be more likely. But its never happened to me.  But if there is something like a handbag on a seat, they might just smash a window and grab it if the door doesn't open..  You lose not just a handbag but a window.    Locking the door might reduce the likely hood  and may prevent things like a boisterous drunk getting in and sitting next to you.     Better maybe to think about not having tempting things on show at any time.     
But beware of assuming the problem is confined to certain cities or neighbourhoods.  Criminals may operate in 'posh' areas if traffic conditions and escape routes are  better. 

Personally i dont often lock myself in. Especially  on faster  roads  where potentially I might need to be rescued from the car. 

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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2024, 12:51:30 PM »
Not sure the Jazz is high on the list of cars subject to car jacking. And if they really wanted to take your car there a plenty of ruses  such as a  staged accident which would trick you into getting out of the car.

Grabbing valuables from the car may be more likely. But its never happened to me.  But if there is something like a handbag on a seat, they might just smash a window and grab it if the door doesn't open..  You lose not just a handbag but a window.    Locking the door might reduce the likely hood  and may prevent things like a boisterous drunk getting in and sitting next to you.     Better maybe to think about not having tempting things on show at any time.     
But beware of assuming the problem is confined to certain cities or neighbourhoods.  Criminals may operate in 'posh' areas if traffic conditions and escape routes are  better. 

Personally i dont often lock myself in. Especially  on faster  roads  where potentially I might need to be rescued from the car.

Car jacking doesn't just refer to stealing the car, it refers to any action were the car might be 'jacked' to gain entry whilst the owner is sat in the vehicle and unable to respond. Sat in slow or stationary traffic for instance. It is different from a normal break and enter routine, whereas the car is in a car park for instance. They walk/cycle/scooter along traffic, looking for items on seats... items you wouldn't leave in the vehicle unattended. They are also targeting people who have been shopping too, opening the tailgate and legging it with the bags out the back. What would you do, give chase whilst your car sits in traffic?
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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2024, 02:57:51 PM »
 Sorry if I didnt make myself clear.    All  dictionary definitions of Carjacking I can find define it as  the theft of the whole car  whilst the driver is present  by force or threats of violence  - (or forcing the driver to take them somewhere.)  Its this which  IMO  is  unlikely with the Jazz , but more of  a risk with High end cars such as Range Rovers. At least in the UK. 

  But I wouldnt call a smash and grab  of a bag etc whilst you are in the car  a carjacking.  Its more like a bag snatch   or street Robbery/mugging which could also happen to a pedestrian. Frail OAP's walking with their tempting  handbags and " 'this is where I keep the valuables" bumbags   should also beware. Especially if obviously tourists.        And the law regards thefts  from unattended cars differently and  less serious. 
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Re: My Honda+ missing open windows alert & auto door lock
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2024, 05:09:13 PM »
Sorry if I didnt make myself clear.    All  dictionary definitions of Carjacking I can find define it as  the theft of the whole car  whilst the driver is present  by force or threats of violence  - (or forcing the driver to take them somewhere.)  Its this which  IMO  is  unlikely with the Jazz , but more of  a risk with High end cars such as Range Rovers. At least in the UK. 

  But I wouldnt call a smash and grab  of a bag etc whilst you are in the car  a carjacking.  Its more like a bag snatch   or street Robbery/mugging which could also happen to a pedestrian. Frail OAP's walking with their tempting  handbags and " 'this is where I keep the valuables" bumbags   should also beware. Especially if obviously tourists.        And the law regards thefts  from unattended cars differently and  less serious.

Police now count 'vehicle theft while occupied' as classed in with 'jacking' (my daughters husband works in policing in Brum). You are right in your assumption regarding theft of the vehicle, and who really would bother nicking a Jazz? (unless the spare parts market starts getting worse, then we all know how expensive Honda parts are).
The issue with stealing from an occupied car is vastly different to a street mugging. They can target people by stealing more than just a handbag or bumbag. Think what people carry with them when travelling to work, from shopping etc. The other thing is surprise. Mugging pedestrians offers the possibility of violence to the thief and other members of Joe public stepping in. By opening a car door/tailgate and making off gives you the problem trying to assess what has just happened, of unbuckling your seatbelt, opening your door, climbing out and then wondering what you're going to do with your car while sat in traffic before chasing the thief... who invariably will be on a leccy bike or scooter.
Now, if I am carrying anything of value, it is hidden in the boot (about 6k worth of bird spotting scope/binoculars)... and I manually lock the doors upon driving away.
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