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Neil Ives

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Re: D or B!
« Reply #120 on: March 12, 2023, 02:52:49 PM »
Put simply, the 'D' mode is for normal driving, and 'B' mode should be used when you are going downhill.
Is that a question or a statement?

I use B mode for urban driving because it's the closest I can get to engine braking in my previous manual gearbox cars. I like to look far ahead and coast toward red traffic lights and other obsticles so I can just continue when they clear. I try to minimise braking as much as possible; that practice is more comfortable for the occupants of the car, the car itself and fuel consumption. When I want to use Adaptive Cruise Control, which I do on fast roads, I have to use D. I just switch to B or D as required while I'm moving.
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Re: D or B!
« Reply #121 on: March 12, 2023, 03:18:16 PM »
Same here, part of my IAM training was to brake to a stop without any recoil. I find it amusing when I see other drivers coming to an abrupt stop and passenger heads nodding to and fro.
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Re: D or B!
« Reply #122 on: March 12, 2023, 04:36:52 PM »
I tend to use B mode whilst in town, slow moving traffic and whilst decending hills, replicating engine braking.

Neil Ives

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Re: D or B!
« Reply #123 on: March 12, 2023, 04:42:12 PM »
Same here, part of my IAM training was to brake to a stop without any recoil. I find it amusing when I see other drivers coming to an abrupt stop and passenger heads nodding to and fro.
My son had car sickness when he was young;  modifying my driving style helped him to travel happily.
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Re: D or B!
« Reply #124 on: September 26, 2024, 01:51:22 PM »
Hi,
 this is maybe a stupid question, but I am new to automatic gear shift. and new to Jazz Crosstar too. :) Do I need to press break pedal when shifting from P to R and than to N and D? Like a press of pedal clutch in manual car. And while driving in motorway in D mode and I want to change into B mode, do I need to press slightly brake pedal, or I just switch the position of shift lever without even touching brake pedal? Thx.

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Re: D or B!
« Reply #125 on: September 26, 2024, 02:25:59 PM »
Hi,
 this is maybe a stupid question, but I am new to automatic gear shift. and new to Jazz Crosstar too. :) Do I need to press break pedal when shifting from P to R and than to N and D? Like a press of pedal clutch in manual car. And while driving in motorway in D mode and I want to change into B mode, do I need to press slightly brake pedal, or I just switch the position of shift lever without even touching brake pedal? Thx.
I usually  press the brake pedal  when making any changes forwards or backwards  between P ,R N and D.  The car is not moving at the time  and pressing the brake  ensures the car will not move unexpectedly before you are ready.  The electric handbrake might also do this  but could release automatically if you touch the throttle. .   
You can change  from D to B  and B to D while moving at any speed without touching the brake.  But if you go into B you can no longer use cruise control.   
« Last Edit: September 26, 2024, 02:35:43 PM by Lord Voltermore »
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Neil Ives

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Re: D or B!
« Reply #126 on: September 26, 2024, 02:26:13 PM »
B to D and back again requires no pedals pressed. Maybr just ease off the accelerator while you do it.
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Re: D or B!
« Reply #127 on: September 26, 2024, 05:30:57 PM »
I think you have to depress button at top of gear stick to go from D to B but can get from B to D without depressing button.

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Re: D or B!
« Reply #128 on: September 26, 2024, 07:13:15 PM »
I think you have to depress button at top of gear stick.

Your gear stick has a button on top

Mine looks like this:

No button...
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Re: D or B!
« Reply #129 on: September 27, 2024, 12:25:27 PM »
Hello fellow Jazzies !
I'm also totally bewildered by the suggestion of a button at the top of the gear lever , could someone please show a picture of this perplexing situation.
I shall meanwhile just change from D to B or B to D with pressing any button ,just using the gear-lever to accomplish the change ,it works just as stated ,simple and correct.
All the best from Neale.

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Re: D or B!
« Reply #130 on: September 27, 2024, 07:00:28 PM »
On my MY22 Jazz there is a button on the front of the gear lever at the top. Changing from B to D to N does not require the button pressing. Changing from D to B requires the button.
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Re: D or B!
« Reply #131 on: October 29, 2024, 12:20:09 PM »
When Should you use B mode in a Honda Jazz Hybrid? 

Firstly the B (Brake) mode is designed first and foremost to be used the same way you would downshift to a lower gear in a conventional manual transmission and using the engine overrun braking to cause a drag force and thus slow the car. 

The use of engine-brake/overrun in a vehicle is primarily a form of braking control to enhance drive-ability/stability, and assist the vehicle brakes in a long down hill run.  Indeed in a snow situation the use of engine braking is key to assisting control by keeping the wheels rolling rather than using the brakes and locking up the wheels.

The Jazz Hybrid B mode does not actually change any gears, because there aren’t any, but rather it simulates the act of down shifting a manual car by increasing the overrun drag energy by using the brake-to-drive-battery re-generation system at a higher level than what occurs in the D (Drive) mode.

I fully understand that harvesting as much energy as possible is a good thing, but focusing on that aspect of B mode is missing the point I think.  For me, I just consider it a bonus when using B mode for the reasons I stated earlier. When I need braking over a long period (long downhill) I just flick it back to B and when not required I flick it back to D.  I use it to control the car firstly, and secondly just recognise the benefits of harvesting otherwise wasted energy.

I am not sure using the B mode for normal driving is a good thing because I suspect keeping the drive-battery above normal use charge levels is not a good thing.  I say that because keeping a cellphone or laptop battery 100% charged all the time is allegedly not a good thing either.  I just let the computer/algorithm keep the drive-battery charge where the designers have figured is best.

The Sport Advance I have also has “flappy paddles” braking mode as well as the B shift just to complicate things.  They do what the B mode does but in four increments going up and down between normal D mode braking level to B mode braking level.  I can select a finer level of braking to suit the slope I am going down, or should I ever be on a race track (unlikely) I can keep my hands on the wheel at all times. 

I have read it is done more for the Asian market – it is highly regarded apparently.  But for me it is a novelty with some minor benefit that I use occasionally.

The “flappy paddles” come with a Sport selection as well as Normal and Eco.  This seems to make the throttle very sensitive and keeps the drive-battery at a higher level of charge so when you want to get going the battery has a load of energy and off you go like a scalded cat.  It doesn’t seem to actually reduce the 0-60 time but just makes the car very lively, and nimble off the start line.  It is a lot of fun when a Boy-Corsa pulls up at the lights next to you.

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Re: D or B!
« Reply #132 on: October 29, 2024, 12:57:01 PM »
B mode around town and twisty A or B roads... D mode on long stretches of motorway and some A roads. Simple.

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Re: D or B!
« Reply #133 on: October 29, 2024, 01:35:33 PM »
Just like Nicksey.
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Re: D or B!
« Reply #134 on: October 29, 2024, 03:42:16 PM »
I am not sure using the B mode for normal driving is a good thing because I suspect keeping the drive-battery above normal use charge levels is not a good thing.

Not sure if this is logical, if the battery is topped up the micro will just switch to EV mode to use some power up... why on earth should the system be designed to allow the battery too much charge? A very very long downhill might be an issue the designers had to take into account, and the system should then have a side route for the power but for normal driving no problem.

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