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sportse

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Yokohama tyre wear
« on: July 05, 2022, 06:42:48 PM »
I’d been fairly impressed with the standard tyres fitted to my EX - not outstanding in any area but ok in most.

Winter driving in sub zero temperatures was ok with good grip for a standard tyre.

The only slight disappointment was wet weather performance with a bit less grip than I would have liked.

Until now, the tyres were wearing very well.

However in the last 2-3k miles, wear has shot up - I don’t know if they don’t like the warmer summer temperatures with long motorway drives, or if the tyre wear just increases rapidly as they wear beyond a certain point with these.

In tyres I’ve had before the wear rate was consistent with miles travelled up until they needed changing.

My rears are still 5mm but the fronts are now down to 3.5-4mm, so will need changed before winter.

Mileage so far is only 16k miles, so maybe 18-20k total before they will need replaced.

I had hoped for maybe 30k on the fronts with a low powered hybrid that smoothly applies power but it’s going to be quite a bit less.

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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2022, 07:54:40 PM »
Hi Sportse, Like you I am generally pleased with the Yokohama tyres and have just checked my tyre depths.
I find that based of 11000 miles, the wear is fairly even, with the rears a being 6.2-6.0mm and the fronts 6.0-5.7mm, which I guess is commensurate with yours, given the difference in mileages. The tyres on my previous Jazz cars were Dunlop and were far worse than this.

I don't however agree with your premise of the smooth drive, promoting a good mileage.
The Mk4 power, particularly torque is significantly more than the previous Jazz, which will improve acceleration and the general 'get up and go' of this model, and I'm sorry to say, that human nature being what it is, if the power is there, then you will use it, at some point.  :D :D

sportse

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Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2022, 08:31:50 PM »
I haven’t really seen the traction control light, so maybe the tyres are quite grippy and actually working harder than it appears.

They are more readily available now through Kwik fit/etc than when I looked last year. Price around £105 so not too bad for a quality tyre.

I used to have Dunlop tyres on a previous car, good in the summer but very hard in the winter with little grip. On my Yaris the car actually used to skid sideways when driving very slowly around car parks in the winter with full lock. The tyres were on the edge and with little grip they just slid.
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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2022, 11:54:10 AM »
Can't remember now which of my Jazzes it was but I replaced a set of Dunlop SP2030s at 13,000 miles when they were down to 3 mm.

I haven't done enough miles to assess the Yokohamas. With my current low mileage it might be age rather than wear that causes me to replace.

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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2025, 10:30:41 AM »
Seriously not happy with the supplied tyres here. The car has just has its 2nd years service @8k miles

Fronts are down to 4.0 and 4.2 mm. That is ridiculous rate of wear by anyones standard. We have not changed our driving style since our previous car (09 mk2 owned from new) and the tyres lasted far longer (Cross Climates were the last ones fitted) and our driving style has not changed.

As I say, not impressed.

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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2025, 10:52:18 AM »
I am also quite satisfied with the supplied Yokohama, grip is pretty good and they were surprisingly good on a torrential rain motorway trip.
As for wear, I only do a very low annual mileage in my Jazz, yet to hit 5k as it comes to 3 years old, however, since the car is front wheel drive, driven mostly directly from an electric motor(always off the line) its unrealistic to expect 30k from front tyres.

As pointed out by Kenneve, electric drive delivers a significantly higher torque when pulling away compared to the usual ICE/clutch. You only have to look at the poor tyre life experienced by many owners of full EV's, even worse than the Jazz.

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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2025, 11:49:22 AM »
Just had my fronts (Yokohama Blu) replaced after only 11000 miles

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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2025, 06:02:28 PM »
...
However in the last 2-3k miles, wear has shot up
...

If only the front tyres suddenly rapidly deteriorate you might want to check the wheel alignment.
(have you within the last 2-3k miles hit a larger than normal pothole or hit the curb at an unfortunate angle?)

The Yokohama Blue Earth (ES32) tyres have an expected milage of above 25k miles according to this source:
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Yokohama/BluEarth-Es-ES32.htm

(as you can see: They are rated "average" in most categories with a high in "comfort" and lows in "wear" and "wet grip")


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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2025, 06:54:54 PM »
Our Jazz was delivered in September 2021 with Vredestein Quatrac all-season tyres (instead of the Yokohama Blue Earth) at our request. Now, after more than four years and over 35,000 km (22,000 miles), both front tires still have just over 5 mm of tread.
We're glad we chose the Vredestein all-seasons back then.
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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2025, 09:08:49 PM »
I managed 28k with the original Blue earths. Just before the 3rd service which included its first MOT, I decided to change them. There was 3mm on the fronts, and 5mm on the backs. I kept the best back one as a spare, which had nearly 6mm on one linear tread. I found them to be good in all conditions, and I don't hang about in driving style. . I would have got them again if my local area fitters could get them, but they couldn't. I have now fitted TOYO proxes comforts, that actually were higher in the braking/quietness/wet weather grip ratings than the Blue earths.. and better than Michelin equivalents too. £100 a corner fitted, I just hope they wear as well as the Blue earths.

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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2025, 09:12:20 PM »
As pointed out by Kenneve, electric drive delivers a significantly higher torque when pulling away compared to the usual ICE/clutch. You only have to look at the poor tyre life experienced by many owners of full EV's, even worse than the Jazz.

That is down to the weight of full EVs though, which is significantly greater than a Jazz.

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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2025, 12:04:36 AM »
For years when I've needed new tyres always brought either Michelin continental or good-year
just had a look Black-circles etc and the blue-earth in Jazz size have better ratings than the
three makes I've always brought , going on that and I've no complaints and cannot notice any
wear after 10,000 miles I will stick with them when replacement time arrives.
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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2025, 07:52:16 AM »
As pointed out by Kenneve, electric drive delivers a significantly higher torque when pulling away compared to the usual ICE/clutch. You only have to look at the poor tyre life experienced by many owners of full EV's, even worse than the Jazz.

That is down to the weight of full EVs though, which is significantly greater than a Jazz.
Agreed, it is a combo of weight and direct high torque through the drive wheels. The output of the Jazz is pretty low compared to many EV's which helps extend tyre life.

I still think 30k is unrealistic for many people given the drive train, but certainly it's possible with a light right foot, which seems to be normal for many Jazz owners, given the average age of owners.
I have always found longer motorway trips extend tyre life compared to stop/start city driving.

Personally I never skimp on tyres, I've always changed around 3.5mm, always with a top rated model from one of the top brands. Mind you, recently I seem to be changing cars quicker than I can wear tyres out :-[

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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2025, 11:33:29 AM »
I'm a bit unconventional (for the UK)  in running two sets of wheels, original Yokohama summer tyres for the summer  and winter legal all seasons when there is possibility of adverse conditions. I'd be happy to use my Goodyear Vector all seasons all year round  but might as well get some mileage out of  the Yokohamas .

I did 27K miles in my 2021 Mk4.  Had I done this with only the Yokohams I would probably needed to replace them at least once, then sold the car with nearly new tyres.   

By sharing mileage approx 50/50 with the Goodyears  neither set  were anywhere near needing replacement when the car  was sold.  I kept the goodyears of course and now using them on my 2024 car.    I estimate both sets will again outlast my ownership of this car   Buying one set of all season tyres will have saved me buying replacements tyres  for two cars.   If I do need to replace the all seasons  before this I will be able to keep them for use on a third car  (my next car  or I could sell the wheels/tyres) . No temptation to buy budget   tyres because the car will be sold soon plus the  advantages of having winter rated tyres  in adverse conditions.   

I wouldnt say the Yokohamas wear particularly quickly, but faster than the Goodyear Vectors.  (I drive approx 50% low wear motorway and 50% high wear conditions. ) Modern fuel efficient tyres  tend to have less tread depth when new  (sometimes less than 7mm)  which reduces  rolling resistance  and use rubber compounds that maximise grip rather than mileage.  On the plus side they can reduce annual  fuel  costs by up to 5%  which can offset some of the cost of more frequent tyre replacement.       
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Re: Yokohama tyre wear
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2025, 12:32:59 PM »
I’ve used Yokohama Blue Earths for a while now both on my last Prius and now on the Jazz

I think they are excellent tyres

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