Sides of front seats splitting

[sportse]

Honda do seem to have dropped the ball with the Mk4 Jazz.

Loads of silly problems that shouldn’t happen to a manufacturer that has been in business many years.

Basic things like seat material, etc.

On mine, the boot catch and bonnet catch require slamming. I’ve complained to several dealers and they say that’s how Honda designed them!

No other car manufacturer has such poor quality.

Maybe to a tiny extent excusable if you were a brand new manufacturer with a cutting edge car that no one else had… but not for a mainstream manufacturer.

[Kremmen]

I adjusted my bonnet catch, now closes more easily and still shuts flush.

[sportse]

I adjusted my bonnet catch, now closes more easily and still shuts flush.

Thanks

The two dealers I tried told me it was operating as designed and said there was no adjustment

It's a strange design - you can't push the bonnet down to lock as it will bend, so the official workshop method of closing it showed to me by the workshop manager is to lift it high and throw it down!

With a giant bang that has people all around looking at you as they think you are having a rage attack on your car.

Same for the tailgate - any attempt to close it normally results in it only half locking if the other doors are shut.

To get it to lock you have to do a similar procedure of lifting it high and throwing it down... with another big bang.

[Jazzik]

No other car manufacturer has such poor quality.

Didn't meet any of this 'loads of silly problems'... even the bonnet and tailgate close 'normal'. Maybe our dealer did before delivery what Kremmen did himself?

Edit.
Just a translation from a post on the MOTORTALK (German) forum:

"So the second service at mileage 35200 is over.

Service AB, i.e. an oil change and inspection without a pollen filter (I change it myself) cost me €251.

The jazz continues to run like clockwork. I am still extremely satisfied. Fast and economical, compact but still very spacious. Great chassis and steering, high long-distance comfort. Great LED light, timeless and "friendly" design.

Well done Honda!"

This guy seems as satisfied as we are, so it looks like it's not all "just trouble" with the Jazz... 

[guest9814]

To sportse
Try to close boot when one of doors opened,
I expiriensed boot closing problems before with Suzuki Vitara, when you try to close boot agresively the air not escaping from cabin throught boot valves efectively, and boot not closing.

It's a strange design - you can't push the bonnet down to lock as it will bend, so the official workshop method of closing it showed to me by the workshop manager is to lift it high and throw it down!
That realy weird, to close bonnet on my Jazz i lifting it 10-20cm from locked position and relese it.

[sportse]

To sportse
Try to close boot when one of doors opened,
I expiriensed boot closing problems before with Suzuki Vitara, when you try to close boot agresively the air not escaping from cabin throught boot valves efectively, and boot not closing.

It's a strange design - you can't push the bonnet down to lock as it will bend, so the official workshop method of closing it showed to me by the workshop manager is to lift it high and throw it down!
That realy weird, to close bonnet on my Jazz i lifting it 10-20cm from locked position and relese it.

Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.

Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?

My bonnet has to be violently thrown down from 60cm to get it to shut. Two dealers have said this is normal.

On any other car you can also gently lower it, then press on the bonnet to close the catch if you don't want to drop it. But on Jazz, I was told by the dealer the metal is so thin it will bend if you do that.

[sportse]

Didn't meet any of this 'loads of silly problems'... even the bonnet and tailgate close 'normal'. Maybe our dealer did before delivery what Kremmen did himself?

There are lots of people in the UK finding very poor pre-delivery inspections sadly - looks like you have better dealers there.

Certainly the giant Honda dealer I bought my car from now sells MG cars, despite being one of the biggest dealers previously.

I know someone who bought a brand new crosstar recently... no wallet for the service book and owners manual supplied. Honda+ not activated and not told about the emergency phone number for breakdown service, so without the app they had no way of contacting them.

I've heard of others with poor 12V batteries, low fuel lights on with delivery, etc.

A really poor show in quality, reflects badly on Honda.

FYI service costs here for a simple car that shouldn't need much doing:

Year 1 £275

Year 2 £466!

Year 3 £325

If the other user has only had 2 services at 35,000km that's very high - my own oil was black and stank at only 10,000 miles.

[NoelM]

There are lots of people in the UK finding very poor pre-delivery inspections sadly - looks like you have better dealers there.

Where have you got that from

[guest9814]

Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.
Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?

You can check this valves easily, they located on the side where emergency inflation kit stored, when you take away sealnat bottle there it is, or when you closing right rear door in fairly quiet place you can hear thes valves closing sound.

[Jazzik]

Same for the tailgate - any attempt to close it normally results in it only half locking if the other doors are shut.

To get it to lock you have to do a similar procedure of lifting it high and throwing it down... with another big bang.

Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.

Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?

Page 180 of my, but also your manual:

To close the tailgate, grab the inner handle,
pull the tailgate down and push it closed
from outside.

So don't try to throw it closed.

[sportse]

Same for the tailgate - any attempt to close it normally results in it only half locking if the other doors are shut.

To get it to lock you have to do a similar procedure of lifting it high and throwing it down... with another big bang.

Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.

Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?

Page 180 of my, but also your manual:

To close the tailgate, grab the inner handle,
pull the tailgate down and push it closed
from outside.

So don't try to throw it closed.

Thanks - the service manager of the local Honda dealer was the one that told me to throw it down.

I'll try the push, hopefully much better.

[guest9814]

Same for the tailgate - any attempt to close it normally results in it only half locking if the other doors are shut.

To get it to lock you have to do a similar procedure of lifting it high and throwing it down... with another big bang.

Thanks, the problem with the boot is if I close it slowly it doesn't latch. The only way to get it to shut is to slam it.

Unless someone has a door open, then it shuts normally. Maybe there are faulty valves in the car?

Page 180 of my, but also your manual:

To close the tailgate, grab the inner handle,
pull the tailgate down and push it closed
from outside.

So don't try to throw it closed.

Damn this should be printed on first page

[sportse]

I tried pushing the tailgate, it doesn’t work on mine unfortunately- only slamming like the dealer showed me works 

Same with the 60 cm throw down for the bonnet. I tried every other way and thought I’d have to call Honda assist when I first bought the car as there was no way to close it after I’d checked the oil.

[Jazzik]

It seems you have a different Jazz than most here.
Just got back from the garage and checked the oil and other fluids as we leave tomorrow for a week's holiday on the Baltic coast.
Also removed all the unnecessary rubbish from the boot. I close the tailgate so to say with 2 fingers and the bonnet closes neatly when I let it fall from about 35 to 45 cm (didn't measure...) height.

[R2D3]

Honda do seem to have dropped the ball with the Mk4 Jazz.

Loads of silly problems that shouldn’t happen to a manufacturer that has been in business many years.

Basic things like seat material, etc.

On mine, the boot catch and bonnet catch require slamming. I’ve complained to several dealers and they say that’s how Honda designed them!

No other car manufacturer has such poor quality.

Maybe to a tiny extent excusable if you were a brand new manufacturer with a cutting edge car that no one else had… but not for a mainstream manufacturer.

"No other car manufacturer has such poor quality."

Don't you believe it.  When the dealer delivered my previous car (BMW X1) he was unable to close the bonnet and we both had to read the instruction manual.  That didn't exactly help as it said to simply release the bonnet from a height of about 2 feet and let it drop.  However, having gas struts, the bonnet simply lifted up!  We resolved the closing issue by pushing down, with some force, at the position of the two bonnet catches - about 1 foot from the front edge.