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Strange steering behavior
« on: March 06, 2022, 09:20:32 PM »
So I've just bought my second Jazz. It already has 7000m as new cars are hard to get nowadays, but it has been inspected by Honda before delivery and I've got it from their website's used cars section. I'm assuming therefore that the cars is fine (?!)

However, every once in a while, when steering or driving over wavy roads, the steering wheel becomes stiff, as if no power steering at all. This lasts for a second, maximum two. When this happens, there is also a beep sound and usually the steering wheel light onboard, yellow or gray. Sometimes is shows another smaller light, with either the car skidding or leaving the road. I wish I could have the time to fast park and take a screenshot. These lights usually go away in less than a minute.

My question: is this normal behavior, or should I rush to the garage better?

My previous Honda was an older model, but the 2020 that I have now seems to be much more computerized... and from what I've heard, the more complicated they make them, the more sensitive and harder to fix they are.

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2022, 09:48:46 PM »
Read this forum and you'll discover that RDMS is probably the biggest complaint about the Mk 4 Jazz. It's meant to be a safety feature but evidently wasn't tested on typical British non-motorway roads. You'll soon discover how to disable it (it's turned on by default). Here's one discussion https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=14349.0 .
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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2022, 11:19:22 PM »
Doesn't feel much safe lol
I'll look into it, thank you guys for the info.

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2022, 03:50:07 AM »
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2022, 06:59:28 AM »

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2022, 07:16:14 AM »
One thing these systems have taught me is to check via a test drive that any future car purchases that they can be turned off.

As someone that takes pride in their driving and road positioning I don't want the car consistently getting it wrong and blaming me.
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2022, 08:38:05 AM »
RDMS... It's a bloody nuisance.... :'(

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2022, 09:11:22 AM »
Its disconcerting at first ,especially if you were unaware of the systems .

I think it a shame that so many users opt out of using some of these safety systems rather than learn to be in control of them.   Most new cars now have some of them, and they may be compulsory on all cars soon.

Rather than just switch it off, check you have it set at 'delayed'  , which is the Honda default setting. See page 154/155 of the manual.   The previous owner may have set it to early or normal  which increases the frequency of activation.   Give it a chance for a while . Only switch it off if you really must.

I find, as have others who have persevered ,that you get used to it.  The occasional twitches on the wheel  become less frequent, or seem to, and no big deal. I dont see it as a personal insult if a computer  cant yet read the road as well as me and wants to check that I am still  alert and sure of what I am doing. As always I am in charge.  I didnt like it when my grandma did the same.   :P

I think there are two main schools of thought.  Those who hate it.  and those like me  who adapt to its foibles and although skeptical they will ever need it to save them , let it  do its stuff because   one day  it just might.   I dont think there are many in the " How did I ever manage without this system  " camp.

You may not got much of a  'handover' from the dealer  ,especially on a used car.
This video may help but its also worth spending time looking through the owners manual. 

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2022, 09:21:20 AM »
At this time I tend to switch it off due to very frosted, tight, twisting roads where i am. Leave it on when weather and travelling on wider less twisting roads.

Agree with Voltermore.

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2022, 09:51:07 AM »
I know I've said this many times before, yes RDMS is probably OK on motorways, dual carriageways, and major roads etc, but on narrow country lanes, I believe in can be downright dangerous!

When negotiating such lanes, very often, one has pull in close to the verge to pass other cars, whereupon RDMS kicks in, trying to steer me away from the verge and into the path of the oncoming car!

How can RDMS be regarded as a safety feature, in this situation.  Not funny at all!!

Like many others I turn it Off at the start of every trip, which is a real PITA.
In other parts of the world, I gather it can be disabled permanently, at the drivers discretion.

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2022, 10:42:17 AM »
I had hoped from another thread that Honda would be updating the RDMS software.

Unfortunately they haven’t so far.

Mine is always turned off before every trip as I drive on narrow country roads.

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2022, 11:05:20 AM »
...but on narrow country lanes, I believe in can be downright dangerous!

When negotiating such lanes, very often, one has pull in close to the verge to pass other cars, whereupon RDMS kicks in, trying to steer me away from the verge and into the path of the oncoming car!

How can RDMS be regarded as a safety feature, in this situation.  Not funny at all!!



On such"roads": Switch RDMS off!!!
The question remains: is RDMS dangerous or maybe your narrow country lanes are...
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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2022, 11:28:28 AM »
Like many here I switch RDMS off before every journey, but Honda is not alone with these excessively intrusive safety systems. Read a review of a Seat Cupra in What Car? and most of the review was about Lane Keeping Assist being so dire he switched it off every time he drove the car plus some other similar systems too. Camera based like the Jazz. I believe the radar systems are meant to be a bit more intelligent.

Oh, and as per Kremmen’s comments, after my extended test drive of the Jazz along a lot of country roads, if it wasn’t possible to disable RDMS it would have been a deal breaker for me.

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Re: Strange steering behavior
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2022, 11:44:02 AM »
This is one such country road - perfectly wide enough for two vehicles, it even has a centre line and clear edges:

https://goo.gl/maps/scw55pwQaDM5ahfx7

However, RDMS was going crazy the whole time I was driving along it, flashing up warnings and making noises.

Many such roads are the same with Honda RDMS.

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