Road departure warning

[Karoq]

Just a quicky.
I gather that some of you are not happy with the above.
Hopefully Honda will upgrade it soon for the Jazz, to the HR-V version, as I have found no problem with it at all.
All that happens is that the warning notice pops onto the left dashboard screen telling you it has been activated and sometimes, depending how near the edge of the road I actually am, it gives a very gentle 'twitch' on the steering wheel.
Far more annoying, I find, are the lane departure warning and hands on steering wheel warnings,. First is over sensitive and the second doesn't like you driving one handed!!

[Kremmen]

I will still turn it off.

There are many instances, where I can see the road for hundreds of yards ahead, and I can quite safely slightly cut a corner. It makes for a smoother drive rather than the fixed Scalextric style RDMS wants when it spots a white line infringement.

Like the instance where I was on a straight road, I could see for hundreds of yards both front and rear, nothing around, no vehicles, no pedestrians. I overtook an empty parked lorry, no need to indicate to no one so I got the annoying wobbly steering wheel.

[Jeff15]

I think the Japs have over thought this system, its a blxxdy nuisance..

[NoelM]

Just turn it all off

[Kremmen]

This isn't the Japanese but the obviously bored non drivers at NCAP.

[Lord Voltermore]

If its purely a software update it would be hard to justify not doing it.

  But if there are hardware changes such as to the camera ,it may not be feasible. 

[culzean]

This isn't the Japanese but the obviously bored non drivers at NCAP.

Yup,  they are implementing all these 'safety' devices to justify their jobs, but the downside is that unlike ABS ( which takes over braking in an emergency because nobody can 'cadence brake' like rally drivers do ) and VSLA - see previous comment on ABS,  these new devices actually cause problems in real life driving situations, but also lull drivers into 'I don't need to concentrate because the car is doing it for me'...   Which is the downfall of 'semi-autonomous' vehicles that expect the driver to wake up and take over in an emergency that the pseudo automation cannot handle - it just does not happen like that because either you are in charge of the vehicle or the automation is - there is really no halfway house.  If you are in charge of the vehicle you need to be fully concentrating and fully aware what is happening.

[Jazzik]

I overtook an empty parked lorry, no need to indicate to no one so I got the annoying wobbly steering wheel.

But since you could/should/had to know that the annoying wobbly steering wheel was coming, why does it still annoy you?
Moreover, no need to indicate doesn't mean that you can't, just a short tap on the turn signal lever and you avoid that annoying wobbly steering wheel, right?
Besides, how could you know that the lorry was empty? The driver could have stopped for a pee break and possibly get out at any moment. So, indicate, drive past with enough distance and if there was indeed someone in the truck, you showed him that you give space.

We all know that these systems are there and why they are there. And it's not too difficult to (learn to) live with them, in my experience...

[sportse]

I'd hope we could have a software update - it's a pain having to always go through the menus, cancelling screens, to get to the setting to turn it off.

The crossing a white line message/steering input would be fine if that was all it did - it's the putting you head on into other traffic because it thinks the road is too narrow that's a pain.

Plus the steering feel is purer with it turned off - I don't know why that should be, steering feel should be the same unless the system is activated?

Maybe with RDMS on standby waiting to take over it is 'connected' to the steering and causes a slight increase in steering weight when active?

[Kremmen]

I overtook an empty parked lorry, no need to indicate to no one so I got the annoying wobbly steering wheel.

But since you could/should/had to know that the annoying wobbly steering wheel was coming, why does it still annoy you?
Moreover, no need to indicate doesn't mean that you can't, just a short tap on the turn signal lever and you avoid that annoying wobbly steering wheel, right?
Besides, how could you know that the lorry was empty? The driver could have stopped for a pee break and possibly get out at any moment. So, indicate, drive past with enough distance and if there was indeed someone in the truck, you showed him that you give space.

We all know that these systems are there and why they are there. And it's not too difficult to (learn to) live with them, in my experience...

I totally disagree.

I indicate when it's going to benefit another road user or pedestrian. Indicating can also confuse others if not performed correctly. How many times have you seen drivers indicating to come off a roundabout before they've cleared the previous exit, happens a lot.

RDMS also triggers for some shiny road repair joins.

My RDMS gets turned off and my driving is not interrupted by incorrect information.

However, if RDMS suits your driving style then that's your choice to leave it on.

How the IAM sees indicating, note the penultimate paragraph that covers overtaking parked vehicles :

https://www.iam-bristol.org.uk/index.php/articles/associate-s-guide/56-signalling

[Jazzik]

It is clear that the rules may differ from country to country.
Here in Poland (and also in Germany and the Netherlands) you are obliged to indicate when you leave your lane (even if only partially, for example to pass a cyclist). It doesn't matter whether there is other traffic or not, it's just an obligation. And the result is no wobbly steering wheel, because you indicated.

So here's probably what happened in your case with the lorry. You (partly or almost) left your lane, (almost or completely) crossed the line and your Lane Keeping Assist System did its job.

And great that you gave this link!
https://www.iam-bristol.org.uk/index.php/articles/associate-s-guide/56-signalling
I started reading from the beginning and surprise, surprise!!! What do I read in the first paragraph?

The purpose of signals is to‘…inform other road users of your presence and intentions.'

Obvious isn't it! "Give a signal whenever it could benefit other road users. You may also need to give a signal to override lane-changing technology" (Roadcraft 2020 page 152). https://www.police-foundation.org.uk/project/roadcraft/

[PaulC]

RDMS settings can be changed by a software update to cars in the UK and EU.
My New Zealand Jazz has the option in the control settings to permanently set RDMS to Warning Only - I am using this option.
My guess is that RDMS always on at startup is set by Honda UK to get the NCAP rating.

[Jeff15]

How can I turn it off permanently....?

[Bristol_Crosstar]

How can I turn it off permanently....?

you can't at present (in the UK), has to be turned off each time the car is switched on

[Kremmen]

You can't.

I sometimes forget but I'm now so familiar with the button presses that can do it safely on the move.