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nowster

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Re: Leg room
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2021, 10:43:10 AM »
MK4 doesn't have a CVT gearbox.

To clarify, the Mk4 doesn't have a gearbox in the conventional sense. It has a fixed ratio.

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Re: Leg room
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2021, 11:45:20 AM »
MK4 doesn't have a CVT gearbox.

To clarify, the Mk4 doesn't have a gearbox in the conventional sense. It has a fixed ratio.
To be precise and rigorous, the mk4 transmission works with an electric CVT or a fixed ratio, two different modes depending from some working conditions. 

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Re: Leg room
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2021, 11:53:28 AM »
E-CVT is an intelligent transmission that has an infinite number of gear ratios at its disposal. By constantly analysing vehicle speed, road conditions, engine power and driver input, it selects the optimal (most efficient) gear ratio for that precise moment.

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Re: Leg room
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2021, 01:53:01 PM »
Jeff15,

From my understanding I believe you have described a conventional CVT rather than the ECVT.

- My understanding from literature and also a video of the transmission being assembled / disassembled at an American Mechanical University is a s follows:

- CVT part of ECVT is a misnomer in the case of the Jazz as the “ constant variability” is governed out side of the transmission in terms of whether you are in EV, Hybrid or Engine drive modes

- The transmission itself has a single fixed ratio gear and a clutch which is engaged when Engine drive mode is required, this is actioned by computer control dependent primarily on load and road speed.

- There are no belts or pulleys in the ECVT to provide variability of final drive ratios like there are in a Toyota Yaris Hybrid for instance.

- The “changing gear” noise when in engine mode I believe is synthetic and will continue to happen as long as you keep your foot down and bears no relationship to a change of ratio.

- The advantage of this system is that the actual transmission has far fewer moving parts etc.

I will be quite happy / grateful to be corrected on any inaccuracies due to my limited knowledge / ignorance.

Having had a (too short) test drive I felt it was probably the worst part of the car in terms of noise v actual acceleration when pressing on but I guess the aim is to adapt driving style to minimise the noise etc.



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Re: Leg room
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2021, 02:55:05 PM »
E-CVT is an intelligent transmission that has an infinite number of gear ratios at its disposal. By constantly analysing vehicle speed, road conditions, engine power and driver input, it selects the optimal (most efficient) gear ratio for that precise moment.

That’s a description of how Toyota/Lexus hybrid system works. The Honda works in a quite different way. Most of the time the front wheels are powered by one of the two electric motors just like an purely electric vehicle. The difference is that electric motor is powered by electricity from battery and/or the petrol engine and second electric motor acting as a generator. Only at higher highway speeds does the petrol engine connect with the road wheels through a clutch.

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Re: Leg room
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2021, 05:42:35 PM »
...and here the e:HEV Hybrid System is perfectly explained. it takes almost 10 minutes but then you know everything!

If nothing goes right, go left!

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Re: Leg room
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2021, 05:36:47 AM »
I am surprised how much leg room there is in the Mk4 compared to the Mk3. Im over 6 foot and I can nearly straighten out my left leg. This is important as I have been getting knee pain driving the Mk3.
Is this because of the longer wheelbase?
Also it is easier to get in and out as well.
I think they've pinched some space from the boot, it's not as deep as it was on my Mk 2 but there's definitely more legroom in the back
Definitely less space in the "boot"

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Re: Leg room
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2021, 08:24:37 AM »
Good find Jazzik, very informative video. :)

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