Author Topic: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.  (Read 6771 times)

alansdad

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Cat Burglar nicked my Cat.

Neighbours had CCTV of the theft. It happened at 11:30 am,  took 40 seconds. Trolley jack and a pipe cutter of some sort. They cut the wires to the lambda sensors and cut through the exaust pipes in front and behind the Cat. The rear cut was through the mid section exhaust pipe so that also needs replacing.

OK I have questions that I need help with.
Honda wanted over 2K for the parts, (Cat, 2 lambda sensors, mid section of exhaust pipe, and fitting kit.)
OEM parts at that price are not an option so I went to the internet. My first problem/question was /is identifying my cars details . Some sites asked for the reg number so that was easy but others had drop down menus with letters and numbers to id the exact model. I only know what is printed on the V5 log book. So can anyone tell me what is missing from this list? Honda. Jazz SE CVT. 1339 cc. Engine number starts with L13A11... . It's petrol and it's automatic. Is this a 1.3 or a 1.4? I am guessing from this forum that it is a Mark 1 but the option I just got from a spares dealer was a 2002 Mk2 Hatchback or a 2002 GD Saloon.

If I buy the sensors on ebay the price varies for new ones from 18 to 148 for one. Any advice please?
Also there seems to be lots of "Pre cat" sensors and very few "Post cat" sensors. I have bought one of the pre cat 18 ones as I did it by phone and they said it would fit but they didn't have the rear sensor.
Virtually all the listings also said "4 wire sensor". When I looked under my car at the cut wires it seemed that one had four wires and the other had only two wires. Any advice on this please?

In the mean time I would like to suggest honda made it harder to steal the cats in the first place. I would also like to suggest that the government bring back the stocks and so when these b*****ds get caught they could be put in a public stock and let me have ten minutes of therapeutic anger management practice on them.

trebor1652

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 06:26:26 PM »
Bar stewards.
Your car is a mark 1 and is classed as a 1.4.
Sorry can't help with the other stuff but there are clever and knowledge people on this site who will help.
I will start garaging my car more often now.

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 09:52:34 AM »
Have a read through this thread, you may find it useful.

https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=10393.0

You can buy cheap 2 and 4 bare wire universal sensors on ebay, I've fitted them without any problems You just have to work out the wiring and connector situation, as the poster had to in the thread above.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 10:00:04 AM by sparky Paul »

alansdad

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2019, 12:39:04 PM »
Thanks for the replies and info so far.
I just went under the car for a better look and I saw that both sensors were 4 wires. The wires in each loom were; 1 black, 1 grey and 2 of them were white. I haven't got the replacements yet so not sure if they will be matching colours or even if there is a plug already on the new ones.
 If there isn't a plug already on the new ones and I have to connect the wires (assuming they are the same colour) does anyone know if the two white ones are interchangeable? What would happen if I get those two wires wrongly connected?

alansdad

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 12:45:28 PM »
Correction...Both of the sensors have 4 wires each.

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 09:56:30 PM »
The two white wires are the heater and can be connected either way round.

Marrrt

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2019, 12:35:07 AM »
Hello, Alansdad met me the same last Tuesday.  Also during the day, my Honda Jazz (1.4 petrol, 2005), stood at my friend's house, in the evening I wanted to run the car was a huge noise.  I have the same problem with the selection of cheaper parts, I need to replace the catalytic converter, two oxygen sensors and the central silencer.  I wonder if it is worth doing by car insurance I'm afraid that it will increase a lot for the year.

What do you think about this product, it wiil be fit?

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Catalytic-Converter-Type-Approved-fits-HONDA-JAZZ-GD1-1-3-02-to-08-L13A1-BM-New-/232450688577
« Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 12:43:00 AM by Marrrt »

sparky Paul

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2019, 09:30:37 AM »
Hello, Alansdad met me the same last Tuesday.  Also during the day, my Honda Jazz (1.4 petrol, 2005), stood at my friend's house, in the evening I wanted to run the car was a huge noise.  I have the same problem with the selection of cheaper parts, I need to replace the catalytic converter, two oxygen sensors and the central silencer.  I wonder if it is worth doing by car insurance I'm afraid that it will increase a lot for the year.

What do you think about this product, it wiil be fit?

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Catalytic-Converter-Type-Approved-fits-HONDA-JAZZ-GD1-1-3-02-to-08-L13A1-BM-New-/232450688577

Yes, that's the right one.

As for claiming on insurance, you have to weigh up the cost of the parts against paying your policy excess, and loss of some no-claims bonus. You also have to consider that you will have to declare it as a claim on future insurance - usually for 5 years - and this wil also affect your future insurance premiums.

If you can fix it yourself, it usually pays to avoid an insurance claim.


Are scrap cat prices up at the moment?  ???
« Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 09:33:05 AM by sparky Paul »

Marrrt

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2019, 03:07:06 PM »
Sparky Paul thank you for your opinion,
I have to calculate it all.

zam

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2019, 06:23:00 PM »
I got done too a few days ago  :(

These gangs are targetting old school Jazzes on purpose. Be aware folks.

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2019, 06:31:43 PM »
I got done too a few days ago  :(

These gangs are targetting old school Jazzes on purpose. Be aware folks.

There are more precious metals in older CATs.
Some people will only consider you an expert if they agree with your point of view or advice,  when you give them advice they don't like they consider you an idiot

sparky Paul

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2019, 06:45:41 PM »
Not another one!  :o

There are more precious metals in older CATs.

The old Jazz ones are quite lucrative, and as a bonus, easy to get at.

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2019, 11:35:17 PM »
Sorry to hear that.
Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of it going on.
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=10393.0
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=11266.msg74894#msg74894

Last edit This should have been in reply to Aj1
« Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 11:50:43 PM by JimSh »

toon.jester

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2019, 10:18:52 PM »
Just had my complete exhaust replaced including cat - 277 and managed to refit the old sensors thankfully. They gave a rough quote of 100 for each sensor but couldn't give an exact price as it was late in the day and the wholesaler had shut.

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Re: Thieves stole my catalytic converter and lambda sensors.
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2019, 11:49:17 PM »
Just a thought, as protection from future thefts you could weld lengths of reo bar top and bottom - this would stop them from using a pipe cutter which is the easiest method..

Or you could go to extremes and install one of these kits...
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