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Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« on: December 04, 2009, 08:43:04 AM »
Well its not fully explained in my country's HONDA Jazz  manual book..

I ve tried both ends but cannot understand it, seems to me both ends are equallly sensitive ..

There is (-) end showing one single raindrop, and a (+) end showing 3 raindrops..
To my logic, it must be more sensitive at (-) end wipers functioning with less rain drops that is light rain . And it must be less sensitive at (+) end, functioning with more raindrops that is heavy rain ...
Am I right?

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Re: Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 09:27:01 AM »
+ = more sensitive = shorter intervals/faster = heavy rain
- = less sensitive = longer intervals/slower = light rain

Just like any "normal" interval control. Only difference is that you control the "relative" rather than the exact speed/interval:-)
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Re: Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 11:18:20 AM »
Dumb me, I still dont understand  >:( ...Let me put it this way...

I want  my wiper begin wiping with the very first raindrop or with the smallest water spry etc.. Now, shall I adjust it to (+) end or (-) end..

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Re: Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 12:12:51 PM »
Dumb me, I still dont understand  >:( ...Let me put it this way...

I want  my wiper begin wiping with the very first raindrop or with the smallest water etc.. Now, shall I adjust it to (+) end or (-) end..

The greatest sensitivity is at the "many raindrops" end.

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Re: Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 12:28:47 PM »
Dumb me, I still dont understand  >:( ...Let me put it this way...

I want  my wiper begin wiping with the very first raindrop or with the smallest water etc.. Now, shall I adjust it to (+) end or (-) end..

In that case you should choose "+".
The problem is that regardless of the setting, the sensor still needs to know it's wet - I don't know how it works, but it won't always recognise mist or very small raindrops, so you may still have to activate the wipers maually from time to time (making it irritating that you have to turn off the sensor to wipe once manually!). At the max setting (at least in my experience) even moderate rain will cause the wipers to go constantly at high speed - not good!

I found that there is not one setting that always works - I usually keep mine around the center and adjust according to the current conditions. Despite the fact that it's not perfect I still think it's a lot better than normal interval.
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Re: Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 01:01:11 PM »
One way it could work is this:

The sensor consists of an infrared LED (like you find in TV remote controls), with an infrared sensor next to it, but shielded from it.

This combination points at the glass head-on. In normal circumstances (dry windscreen), the infrared light from the LED goes either straight through the glass, and a small portion gets reflected back (total internal reflection, the same effect that makes the "dip" position of a rear view mirror work).

When a water droplet is on the windscreen, it forms a half-sphere on the glass surface. This curve in its outer surface is ideal for reflecting light back to the sensor.

The other way would be that it's sensing the water on the windscreen rather than droplets. Total internal reflection depends on the difference in the materials at a surface boundary. If the beam is fired at the glass at an angle, under dry conditions it may be reflected by the outside-of-the-car surface of the glass (like the dipped mirror), but when wet the reflection from the glass-water boundary doesn't happen in the same way. It's the same effect that makes it easy to see a piece of glass in dry air, but put it inside a washing-up bowl of water and it becomes almost invisible.

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Re: Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 04:09:46 PM »
I wonder if my wiper is working properly? Even at the highest setting (+/more drops) its not wiping enough in my opinion.

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Re: Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 04:24:06 PM »
I wonder if my wiper is working properly? Even at the highest setting (+/more drops) its not wiping enough in my opinion.
What sort of rain have you been getting? Does it look like there's a good seal round the sensor behind the rear view mirror? Has your windscreen been scratched in that area?

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Re: Rain sensing wiper sensitivity ?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2009, 04:27:18 PM »
Its a bit gimmicky and not an exact science, I can get fast speed, normal and intermittent under the same rain conditions, it depends how it hits the sensor I presume. Bad point of the system in the winter now when there tends to be mucky/salty/wet spray is that even on 'most sensitive' auto setting the wipers won't wipe until you can't see through the screen! Suppose auto is great for proper rain drops...maybe in the UK we have the wrong type of rain (as well as leaves and snow!).

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