Thinking about my next car

[Kenneve]

Not his one you won't  (eNiro 208BHP) 310 Mies on a full charge. Owned for a year, covered 6k miles, never been near a public charger. What a load of rubbish is spouted about electric cars, by those who have not experienced the joys of driving at a cost of 4p per mile!

Yes, it maybe 4p per mile, but what about the extra £10k, that you have paid, over the price of the Jazz Advance.
That £10k would take me almost 10,000 miles  (currently 67.8mpg)

Edit , I obviously can’t count! Maybe something to do with age, 
I missed a 0 of the previous total, should be 100,000 miles???

[Jazzyone]

I was seriously going to consider the new MG3 but when I realised that the rear seat is not split it’s a no for me. I’ll be looking at the new Dacia Duster hybrid next year. Same engine etc as the Captur and Clio. I like the new rugged look that they’ve given it and it’s getting good reviews.
Pine, is 40 miles to a dealer really a big problem? Apart test driving and collecting the car you’ll hopefully only have to go once a year for a service

[Spodric]

I sat in a Toyota Yaris, it seemed too small inside the cabin for me.
I test drove a Toyota Yaris Cross, it was big on the outside but still not that big inside the cabin.
I test drove a Honda Jazz Crosstar, it accelerated more smoothly than the Yaris Cross, and it was small on the outside but still big enough inside.

Also when test driving cars, it could be that a new car feels quieter than an old car partly because of the tyres. As the tyres get a few years older, their rubber becomes harder, which lets more vibrations from the road into the cabin, increasing road noise.

That's an interesting point about old tyres increasing road noise. I definitely think my 4 year old Jazz Mk4 is a lot noisier at motorway speeds than when it was new. The front tyres need replacing soon so it will be interesting to see if that will reduce road noise.

The hired Peugeot 2008 GT (71 reg plate, 27K miles) I got while waiting for the failed brake simulator unit to be replaced under Warranty was blissfully comfortable and very quiet at motorway speeds. I would be tempted to swap the Jazz for a used low miles 2008 GT, except for the problem reported involving some 1.2 engine failures that is a bit of a worry.

[Jazzik]

I was seriously going to consider the new MG3 but when I realised that the rear seat is not split it’s a no for me.

Folding down the rear seatback (it’s only one-piece in our early-build test car, but a 60/40-split option is imminent).

Source: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mg-motor/mg-3

[Karoq]

Not his one you won't  (eNiro 208BHP) 310 Mies on a full charge. Owned for a year, covered 6k miles, never been near a public charger. What a load of rubbish is spouted about electric cars, by those who have not experienced the joys of driving at a cost of 4p per mile!

Yes, it maybe 4p per mile, but what about the extra £10k, that you have paid, over the price of the Jazz Advance.
That £10k would take me almost 10,000 miles  (currently 67.8mpg)

Edit , I obviously can’t count! Maybe something to do with age, 
I missed a 0 of the previous total, should be 100,000 miles???

If yours is the Advance and not the sport and you bought it new, I paid £2k more for my 2 year old one owner 7K miles eNiro 4PLUS. Top of the range with sun roof, electric drivers seat (2 memories and electric lumbar support and it slides back when getting out and forwards when getting in, automatically!) heated steering wheel, cooling front seats, heated front seats heated rear seats, rear sideways proximity warning blind spot monitoring etc, etc, etc.
Faster and more comfortable with a MUCH bigger boot.
Each Unto their own, I have owned 8 Hondas and loved all of them, including eHR-V and eCR-V, but I'll stick with my Kia thanks and I do not intend to ever go back to 'suck-squeeze-bang-blow' mode of transport

[Kenneve]

Karoq, My apologies, I assumed we were talking about new vehicles, even so the £2k difference represents 20k miles for me.
My latest Advance is also Jazz No8 and for me it is the best Jazz yet, (fingers crossed on the brake issue, which hopefully will have been sorted on a 24plate vehicle).
Having the performance of a EV vehicle, I don't really think about it as being ICE powered, although obviously it is.
However, as you say 'each to their own'.

[Westy36]

Take a look at the Lexus LBX

£30k is a lot of dosh for a posh Yaris. I know it'll be premium inside, Lexus are always a very nice place to be, but even so, £30k!

@Karoq - For your mileage, I can see how you are ok with an EV. We do >20k in our two cars, and EV would be a right PITA on range and charging. I'll stick to ICE as long as possible. I'd like a go in a speedy EV one day for the acceleration, but not having one our drive. Surrounded by Tesla motors on our estate and couple of VW EV's, so they are getting to be a more regular sight.

[Lincolnshire Rambler]

The LBX isnt a posh yaris cross . For a start the petrol engine is the latest lexus incarnation with balancer shaft that the toyota doesnt have . The lexus design and build quality is an a different page to toyota  . The interior is pure lexus so even at 30k is ( relatively) better value for money than the yaris cross and even the top jazz which tops out at £31k these days .

[guest334]

Try Yaris early model diesel and or Mirca from same era look hard for 5 Dr. The simple engineering is foolproof.
Any recent vehicles are designed to be throw away and unserviceable by owners.
Many models have key parts deleted after 4 to 5 years.

[dfconnolly]

“Many parts are deleted after 4-5 years”………or even sooner if you have a 20 plate Jazz or CRV with a faulty brake Feel simulator module failure!

[Jazzik]

I was seriously going to consider the new MG3 but when I realised that the rear seat is not split it’s a no for me.

Maybe this answer is a bit late, but now in 2025 the MG3 will have a two-way adjustable steering wheel (reach and rake) plus the rear seat is split folding, 60/40.
The French brochure, dated 21-1-2025 already mentions this.
Keep in mind that 'old' stock will be still without!

[JJazz]

Maybe next year when my two year fixed rate bond at 4.35% matures?.

[JB]

Maybe next year when my two year fixed rate bond at 4.35% matures?.

Don't let Rachel Reeves get her hands on it, I think she would try
anything to fill the black hole she created.

[JJazz]

Well here is my take on it.
When I looked at alternatives to replace my Honda E. I found the Yaris Cross a bit cramped for me and not much else offered the practicality of the Jazz. Honda E was great, but limited range in the winter and practicality were the reasons for the change. The Clio does look a viable option, if a bit less interior space and practicality works for you.
I have a second large SUV and the Jazz tends to be used as my city car, where it excels. From time to time I have travelled on motorway journeys, airport and back of around 140 miles. Whilst I dont find the seats as comfortable as my SUV, its absolutely fine on the motorway, as quiet as many other cars I have owned and driven, never found it lacking in keeping with the traffic flow at anytime to motorway speed limits. My motorway consumption tends to average around 60mg on such trips.
Unlike others, I dont see the brake issue as a particular problem for me, simply I won't own a car with todays prices for repairs/parts without buying an extended warranty once the main warranty runs out.

Of course buying a Jazz, immediately puts you into a certain age group 

Shh!, Rachel from Accounts will find ways to tax us

[marksmiff01]

I've owned Jeff for almost three years. It was purchased because I stupidly bought a vauxhall grandland which I just grew to hate. Here's my view and take on the Jazz e Crosstar.  When I worked and drove to and from work, I'd get around 70mpg average.  I've retired to the Cumbrian coast and regularly get 60mpg. I like the car generally and it's reasonably well assembled.  The only gripe is with hills. It screams like a scolded cock. It's heavy and the bells and whistles can be annoying especially when it jerks the wheel. But on the whole it's a good car. Far to clever, but aren't they all. Would I buy another? No. I feel the screaming it makes when accelerating is just annoying me. I personally don't think the electric mode is suitable in the hills but is good on the straight. Motorway driving is good but the seats are hard on the bum. Mines a Crosstar which I think looks the best of the two. Hope this helps.