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Jayt43

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When it happens with a Jazz, it's good if you're near home!!
« on: January 10, 2022, 11:39:02 AM »
Went out to wash the car last night (as it was filthy owing to snow and slush).

As the Jazz is so quiet in EV mode, on my way back (about 1km from home) I could actually hear that something was stuck in a tyre. This was rapidly followed by a TPMS warning wherein I knew it would be bad news (as I check my pressures weekly).

After a quick inspection, I concluded that it was inflated enough to get back - but could not see the source. And, as there was little to no traffic I limped home (checking every few hundred metres that I was still good in good shape).

Back home in the dark I re-inflated to the correct pressure, but could immediately hear air escaping. So, as it was late, I left the car in the drive and checked first thing this morning.

Aside from lovely sunshine, I was greeted by the sight of a ruddy great big screw in the centre of the rear right (currently shod with brand new Nexon winter tyres).

As this location was clearly repairable, I wanted to avoid the gunk route, opting instead to jack the Jazz up (photo attached) remove the alloy (19mm socket) and then hop in my wife's car to get a repair (£8 in total).

Back home, with alloy remounted, I torqued up to 108 nm (80 lb-ft); checked the tyre pressure and then recalibrated TPMS (no lube applied to the studs).

Wheel off, the thickness of the coating on the rear torsion beam and sub-frame seems rather good. Rear caliper design is also interesting but I don't think I'll need to touch the pads for a long time to come.

Also noticed (as I didn't check before) that the Jazz has quite a pronounced negative camber angle on the rears. All good for safe, fast handling :-)

Checking the Jazz manual, I was disappointed to find practically no information, other than use the gunk and /or consult with your dealer. That was the only downside, along with the obvious disadvantage of not having a jack, wheel brace or spare wheel available!

Mileage from new is just over 2500km, so I was quite unlucky (but rather relieved I was not further from home).

« Last Edit: January 10, 2022, 05:31:56 PM by Jayt43 »

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Re: When it happens with a Jazz, it's good if you're near home!!
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2022, 11:47:48 AM »
... recalibrated TPMS (no lube applied to the studs).
Will you explain that sentence please?
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 12:14:11 PM »
As you say, a)lucky you were near home, b)you had a Jack and wheelbrace so that you could remove the wheel/tyre and take it for repair. I have to admit that lack of a spare wheel, Jack and in the U.K. at any rate an unusual and not readily stocked tyre size are not features that I am enamoured by.
Out of interest, did you already have a Jack or did you acquire one when you bought your Jazz?

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2022, 12:15:23 PM »
Sorry Neil. The two are entirely separate processes ;-)

Some people like to apply anti-seize to their wheel nuts. However, the 108 nm is a dry torque rating (by adding anti-seize it can affect bolt tension negatively).

TPMS recalibration is under "Vehicle Settings" in the infotainment. To clear the TPMS warning it requires the driver to take this step.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2022, 12:18:07 PM »
As you say, a)lucky you were near home, b)you had a Jack and wheelbrace so that you could remove the wheel/tyre and take it for repair. I have to admit that lack of a spare wheel, Jack and in the U.K. at any rate an unusual and not readily stocked tyre size are not features that I am enamoured by.
Out of interest, did you already have a Jack or did you acquire one when you bought your Jazz?

I have a hydraulic floor jack. The actual jacking point flanges on a Honda are different to ones like Nissans / Hyundais etc. So you should really use a factory Honda jack to avoid issues (and not one from another vehicle).

I will post photos of the differences when I get a chance.

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2022, 01:57:34 PM »
Sorry Neil. The two are entirely separate processes ;-)

Some people like to apply anti-seize to their wheel nuts. However, the 108 nm is a dry torque rating (by adding anti-seize it can affect bolt tension negatively).

TPMS recalibration is under "Vehicle Settings" in the infotainment. To clear the TPMS warning it requires the driver to take this step.
Ah, thanks. I understood each part but not how they were connected  :D
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Re: When it happens with a Jazz, it's good if you're near home!!
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2022, 02:04:02 PM »
In the situation Jayt43 had (a tire that slowly loses pressure) this can save you if you are a little further from home:



Unfortunately, the Jazz has no (and room for a) spare wheel, but there is a perfect place for such a 12V mini compressor under the boot floor!
« Last Edit: January 10, 2022, 02:05:48 PM by Jazzik »
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Re: When it happens with a Jazz, it's good if you're near home!!
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2022, 03:44:12 PM »
I thought it already had one as part of the puncture repair kit.

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Re: When it happens with a Jazz, it's good if you're near home!!
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2022, 04:39:39 PM »
It certainly should have. If not Jazzik should hot foot it down to his dealer and demand one!
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2022, 05:36:51 PM »
I thought it already had one as part of the puncture repair kit.

Indeed it does, but it's a pain to repack the hose and wire into the small spaces.

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Re: When it happens with a Jazz, it's good if you're near home!!
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2022, 07:21:55 PM »
Indeed it does, but it's a pain to repack the hose and wire into the small spaces.

Of course I have one. I was curious if and how the compressor worked. It did and was quite a bit slower than the one I bought years ago at Lidl.
And than came repacking... That was once and I hope never again!
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2022, 08:17:05 PM »
Indeed it does, but it's a pain to repack the hose and wire into the small spaces.

Of course I have one. I was curious if and how compressor worked. It did and was quite a bit slower than the one I bought years ago at Lidl.
And than came repacking... That was once and I hope never again!

Quite a few products in Lidl's Ultimate Speed range are not bad. I bought a trickle charger to replace my CTEK MXS 7.0 (which gave out after 4 months). In fact, I bought 2 as I thought they may not last. My fears were unfounded and 2 years later the 1st is still going strong (and the two together were still £50 cheaper than the CTEK). BTW CTEK customer service is abysmal based on my experience...

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2022, 08:21:58 PM »
Indeed it does, but it's a pain to repack the hose and wire into the small spaces.

Of course I have one. I was curious if and how compressor worked. It did and was quite a bit slower than the one I bought years ago at Lidl.
And than came repacking... That was once and I hope never again!

Quite a few products in Lidl's Ultimate Speed range are not bad. I bought a trickle charger to replace my CTEK MXS 7.0 (which gave out after 4 months). In fact, I bought 2 as I thought they may not last. My fears were unfounded and 2 years later the 1st is still going strong (and the two together were still £50 cheaper than the CTEK). Perfectly charged both a traditional lead acid battery and an AGM variant. BTW CTEK customer service is abysmal based on my experience...

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