Post by: guest5263 on February 10, 2015, 11:18:42 AM
Just a bit of advice on buying an older Jazz.
Due to financial reasons, I can only consider an older, higher mileage Jazz.
I am looking at between £1000 and £2000 to spend and have seen several for sale, one was a 2002 1.4SE with 95,000 miles, another a 2004 1.4SE with 115,000 miles.
Have you any suggestions on what I could look for as potential problems, i.e common faults with the Jazz, I have heard about gearbox problems, but how can I tell if it is on its way out?
Any help, advice would be appreciated
Post by: madasafish on February 10, 2015, 11:47:05 AM
ANY odd noises from gearbox in any gear = bearings and big bill.
Wheel bearings fail - noise when cornering or at speed.
A Yaris from the same era is MUCH more reliable.. (we have had two)
Post by: guest5263 on February 10, 2015, 12:28:06 PM
What about on the motorway? How would you compare the two? I know it is not the best choice for a trip to Scotland from the midlands, 320 miles there, but i would make this trip about two times a year, but I don't want to get a bigger car just for these two or three trips.
Post by: madasafish on February 10, 2015, 04:22:48 PM
Lots of wind and tyre noise on motorway.. Our 2003 Yaris d4d is quieter than 2012 Jazz...
Post by: guest5168 on February 10, 2015, 04:31:58 PM
Yes, Yaris boot is smaller and seats don't fold as flat as Jazz,
Lots of wind and tyre noise on motorway.. Our 2003 Yaris d4d is quieter than 2012 Jazz...
you must be nuts to even consider the yaris, although reliable it's total ********** inside/out and it's sooo small as well, you are lucky if you can squeeze 3people in back seats and everyone will be so cramped up.
I have 2003 jazz with 360,000km on it now and it has been rock solid, also on motorway it's just fine, I do 3000km trips several times a year across all europe and even on german autobahns It's just fine. What I can suggest is to go for 1.4 as the 1.2 is sluggish and get the manual gearbox, I don't think there's really any more economical car which is also super spacious.
Post by: guest4078 on February 11, 2015, 06:54:58 PM
Post by: guest5263 on February 13, 2015, 09:54:49 AM
If you are a Scot in Scotland, be careful when you buy and make sure that the underside and door bottoms aren't rusty. Your weather takes it out of the untreated Japanese built cars. My old pink one was Scottish, and that had some rust around. I waxoiled it when I first got it so it didn't get any worse, but exhaust etc. had seen better days, and was a bit crusty.Thanks for the advice! I'm a Scot in the West Midlands!
Post by: guest4283 on February 15, 2015, 11:47:02 AM
...be careful when you buy and make sure that the underside and door bottoms aren't rusty. Your weather takes it out of the untreated Japanese built cars.
I'm intrigued to hear you say that as I would have thought that they would apply rust proofing depending on the intended market. I know that Japanese domestic market cars ('grey imports' as they are known if imported into UK) do not have rust protection applied. Could it be that you were referring to 'grey imports'?
Post by: guest4512 on February 16, 2015, 08:39:04 PM
Hi allGearbox bearing sounds like you've got the car in reverse when you're accelerating in 1st 2nd and 3rd, less noticeable in 4th and 5th. It an annoying whiney noise. If you hear that, walk away. The FAQ tells you the other common faults.
Just a bit of advice on buying an older Jazz.
Due to financial reasons, I can only consider an older, higher mileage Jazz.
I am looking at between £1000 and £2000 to spend and have seen several for sale, one was a 2002 1.4SE with 95,000 miles, another a 2004 1.4SE with 115,000 miles.
Have you any suggestions on what I could look for as potential problems, i.e common faults with the Jazz, I have heard about gearbox problems, but how can I tell if it is on its way out?
Any help, advice would be appreciated
You should be able to get a 2005 with around 70k for around 2k.
Post by: guest4078 on February 16, 2015, 11:10:44 PM
No, my car was a UK car sold in Scotland, 2005. But I think you are correct about imported JDM cars, no underseal.
Post by: guest5263 on February 17, 2015, 11:48:13 AM
Thanks for the advise, appreciatedHi allGearbox bearing sounds like you've got the car in reverse when you're accelerating in 1st 2nd and 3rd, less noticeable in 4th and 5th. It an annoying whiney noise. If you hear that, walk away. The FAQ tells you the other common faults.
Just a bit of advice on buying an older Jazz.
Due to financial reasons, I can only consider an older, higher mileage Jazz.
I am looking at between £1000 and £2000 to spend and have seen several for sale, one was a 2002 1.4SE with 95,000 miles, another a 2004 1.4SE with 115,000 miles.
Have you any suggestions on what I could look for as potential problems, i.e common faults with the Jazz, I have heard about gearbox problems, but how can I tell if it is on its way out?
Any help, advice would be appreciated
You should be able to get a 2005 with around 70k for around 2k.
one last thing, I possibly will be travelling to Edinburgh and back from the midlands, perhaps 3 times a year due to family commitments, and maybe a few 120 mile trips, would this car be comfortable with a 6/7 hour drive of 350 miles? I know it might be down to personal opinion, but if anyone has driven this distance would appreciate any comments. and is there any difference in the drive between the 1.2 and 1.4? the specs don't seem vastly different.
Post by: guest4324 on February 17, 2015, 12:17:02 PM
Last summer me, my missus and daughter went with my mum and her 2 dogs to Wales for the week in her Jazz. So with all luggage in, my mum and wife in the front, me, my daughter in a booster seat and the dogs (medium size) on the back seat I was more than comfortable enough and I'm 6'2". It's for those reasons that I bought a Jazz myself!
Post by: guest5263 on February 17, 2015, 12:23:20 PM
My mum has a 2003 GD 1.4 and she's now 70. Once a year she drives down from Manchester to my brother's in Dorset no problem.I should have no problem then i am 5'5"! thanks!
Last summer me, my missus and daughter went with my mum and her 2 dogs to Wales for the week in her Jazz. So with all luggage in, my mum and wife in the front, me, my daughter in a booster seat and the dogs (medium size) on the back seat I was more than comfortable enough and I'm 6'2". It's for those reasons that I bought a Jazz myself!
Post by: guest4512 on February 17, 2015, 01:28:52 PM
Post by: degzi on February 20, 2015, 12:28:22 AM
Post by: guest5263 on February 20, 2015, 07:28:22 AM
Post by: guest4675 on February 21, 2015, 04:09:21 PM
Thanks for the feedback, well, today is the day, finally made up mind to buy one, looking at 05 or 06, with possible 100k, been deciding between that and the Toyota corolla, but the jazz is much more economical and popular, hope I don't get stung!Being a used car is a lottery regardless which car you go for you will encounter one issue or another. 9 year old cars likely to have something that's quite not right.
Since getting mine I've had a fresh battery, two brake calipers, rear pads, strut mount and now drop links, CV joints and front brake caliper issues. Hoping once all this is sorted it will leave me alone for a while!
Good luck.
Post by: guest5263 on February 21, 2015, 10:26:00 PM
Post by: guest4078 on February 22, 2015, 11:41:40 PM
The engine should be nicely run in, with lots of miles left to come. I would do an oil and filter change so you know it has been done and bung a tube of molyslip in to protect the top end. Probably done some longer journeys so not been too stressed. If it has been looked after, you have a bargain. Good luck.
Post by: guest4512 on February 23, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
Post by: guest5263 on February 24, 2015, 10:17:12 AM
Congratulations, I hope it serves you well.Thanks Interlock.
The engine should be nicely run in, with lots of miles left to come. I would do an oil and filter change so you know it has been done and bung a tube of molyslip in to protect the top end. Probably done some longer journeys so not been too stressed. If it has been looked after, you have a bargain. Good luck.
Sorry, but i am not familiar with molyslip, Could you explain what i do with it please as it sounds like a good idea. The service record looks like it had an oil and filter change in March last year 5000 miles ago, and it was MOTed in November last year, so I am planning on getting a major service done at an independent garage.
Post by: guest5263 on February 24, 2015, 10:18:35 AM
That's a very good price. I take it it's not the mk2?Unfortunately not, would have liked the newer shape, but for the price, i can't complain for the price.
Post by: guest4078 on February 24, 2015, 11:18:39 PM
Bung it in at oil change time, costs around £12. Molyslip Engine Protector 325ml and a decent oil will keep your engine sweet.
They also do a gearbox version, protects those thrust bearings. DO NOT use in a cvt box, only manual.
Regards.
Post by: guest5263 on February 24, 2015, 11:30:04 PM
Molyslip, oil additive. Coats all parts with molybedenum (sp?) which is super slippery, stays active even when the oil has drained back ito the sump so protects on startup, also keeps the top end nice and quiet. Lots of mentions on the forum.Thanks for the explanation, ordered from Amazon.
Bung it in at oil change time, costs around £12. Molyslip Engine Protector 325ml and a decent oil will keep your engine sweet.
They also do a gearbox version, protects those thrust bearings. DO NOT use in a cvt box, only manual.
Regards.
Post by: guest5263 on February 25, 2015, 09:38:26 AM
Molyslip, oil additive. Coats all parts with molybedenum (sp?) which is super slippery, stays active even when the oil has drained back ito the sump so protects on startup, also keeps the top end nice and quiet. Lots of mentions on the forum.Sorry for asking a silly question, but if I have a service done with the oil change, the oil will obviously be topped up to the max, can I add this 325ml on top of this? or should i wait until the oil level drops down a bit?
Bung it in at oil change time, costs around £12. Molyslip Engine Protector 325ml and a decent oil will keep your engine sweet.
They also do a gearbox version, protects those thrust bearings. DO NOT use in a cvt box, only manual.
Regards.
Post by: guest255 on February 25, 2015, 04:23:22 PM
Wait for level to drop to the minimum or put it first at the next oil change
Post by: monkeydave on February 25, 2015, 09:45:49 PM
No that would put level above the maximum
Wait for level to drop to the minimum or put it first at the next oil change
that is of course if it uses any oil, no honda i have ever had has used any oil between services
Post by: guest4078 on February 25, 2015, 10:05:58 PM
Post by: lexi on February 27, 2015, 10:20:45 PM
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that is of course if it uses any oil, no honda i have ever had has used any oil between services
Yeah ,unlike the rather common oil burning Toyotas. I have seen a few Pink Mk 1 jazz at lower than usual prices.
It must be the colour.........it would take a bit of explaining I suppose ;D
Sounds like a fair enough price, as they are more expensive up here. Seen them at 200k miles........so they ain't no toys. Brilliant tool is Jazz.