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ColinB

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1470 on: June 08, 2020, 08:30:32 PM »
Another scrappage scheme could make the EVs more affordable https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/uk-government-launch-new-car-scrappage-scheme but will it help those who haven't got a very old car but would like to move to newer technology?

Hmmm, doesn't quite make sense to me. Autocar seem optimistic that the scheme will include buying new hybrids because the EV market is still too small to make a pure-EV scheme worthwhile (because without the charging infrastructure, pure EVs are not practical for a large part of the motoring public) ... but why would the government want to encourage people to buy hybrids that're going to be banned in 12 years time? If that ban is to improve air quality and reduce carbon emissions, surely they'd want to phase out combustion engines as early as possible, not encourage people to buy them? Still, if it does include hybrids, £6k off a Mk4 Jazz would make it almost affordable after all.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1471 on: June 08, 2020, 10:52:39 PM »
...but why would the government want to encourage people to buy hybrids that're going to be banned in 12 years time?

Are they? Wasn’t aware of that.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1472 on: June 08, 2020, 11:07:09 PM »
They won't be banned, just not able to buy a new one.

ColinB

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1473 on: June 09, 2020, 05:16:21 AM »
...but why would the government want to encourage people to buy hybrids that're going to be banned in 12 years time?

Are they? Wasn’t aware of that.

Oops, sorry, loose phrasing. Jocko is correct, it’s the sale of new hybrids that will be banned. This forms part of HMG’s plan to reduce carbon emissions. Doesn’t really change the point I was trying to make though, which is why would they encourage the take-up of something they want to get rid of?

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1474 on: June 09, 2020, 09:19:07 AM »
...but why would the government want to encourage people to buy hybrids that're going to be banned in 12 years time?

Are they? Wasn’t aware of that.

Oops, sorry, loose phrasing. Jocko is correct, it’s the sale of new hybrids that will be banned. This forms part of HMG’s plan to reduce carbon emissions. Doesn’t really change the point I was trying to make though, which is why would they encourage the take-up of something they want to get rid of?

Well actually, I hadn't picked up on the word 'banned', it was the fact that Hybrids will also be included with petrol and diesel engined cars that I missed. I thought hybrids would be on sale for a bit longer.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1475 on: June 09, 2020, 09:26:10 AM »
Ah, so it was the news earlier this year where Hybrids were added to the list that I missed. Although from the article I link to here they are not consistently mentioned.

I have to say, as a driver of a hybrid, I think they do provide a good bridge to the world of fully electric but also allow you to cling on to perhaps outmoded ideas of what a car should be. What I mean by that is, for example, by buying my RAV4 hybrid I was able to cling on to me perceived need for a largish 4x4 whilst achieving much greater fuel consumption than a petrol version would and avoiding the nasties of a diesel. However, I should have probably faced up to the fact that I probably no longer need that type of vehicle. And also that the Toyota Hybrid system in my car is first or second generation and nothing like as efficient as their current models and the new Honda system.

I am seriously weighing up a new Jazz for next year and the hybrid only choice just makes things simpler and more attractive, although they can be very weird to drive. The complete lack of connection between engine noise and speed/acceleration really takes some getting used to.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51366123

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1476 on: June 09, 2020, 09:30:30 AM »
I see MG have confirmed plans to sell a 500km / 300+ miles range ZS, initially in India, by 2022...

https://insideevs.com/news/427054/mg-motor-500-km-range-zs-2022/

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1477 on: August 02, 2020, 01:17:34 PM »
Saw a comment by a Spanish guy that the domestic power supply capacity in a lot of older Spanish dwellings is very low,  something like 3.3KW hardly enough for a UK kettle and not enough for an electric shower.  Then I found this article, where it can be upgraded to 5.5KW - hardly enough to charge an electric vehicle though.   I know article is a few years old,  but the other statistic is that 2/3 of Spanish people live in a flat / apartment.   https://tonysparksinspain.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-upgrade-electricity-supply.html
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