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« Reply #1350 on: January 10, 2020, 07:59:15 AM »
That is First Glasgow introduced its first two all electric buses on commercial routes.



Glasgow used electric trolley buses up until 1967.


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« Reply #1351 on: January 10, 2020, 08:43:07 AM »
Glasgow used electric trolley buses up until 1967.



Look almost identical to the later Rotherham Corporation trolleybuses, although they also had a lot of single deckers with enormous pantographs.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1352 on: January 11, 2020, 09:41:37 PM »

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« Reply #1353 on: January 19, 2020, 11:33:38 AM »
Watched a superb Fully Charged video this morning. It is the first in a series about choosing, driving and living with an Electric car. My wife watched it and found it very informative. I started getting the "Can we get one?" questions.
It is a bit sexist, as it is a woman presenter choosing the car (and despite being a BAFTA presenter she has an annoying habit of looking at the main camera), but well worth a look.
It is the first in a series of six but unfortunately we will have to wait until the second in the series is uploaded.


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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1354 on: January 19, 2020, 08:48:02 PM »
My desire to own an EV just won't go away. One thing that drives me mad is that I could easily manage with a car with a range of 50 to 60 miles apart from these odd trips. I'm basing my entire motoring life on the fact that a few times a year I might have to do 100 miles. My mate, who has a 2014 Leaf, went down to South Wales last year and he just hired an ICE car for a week.

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« Reply #1355 on: January 19, 2020, 08:58:02 PM »
BEV make a good second car,  but at a price that is more than most peoples first car costs - let early adopters take the pain and low residuals and for the market to sort itself out and come up with sensible offerings at a reasonable price. Better still wait for the 'battery revolution' that has been just around the corner for many years,  and have a battery weighing 50Kg with a range of 500 miles....

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« Reply #1356 on: January 19, 2020, 10:11:16 PM »
let early adopters take the pain and low residuals
That's the problem with used BEVs, they hold their prices better than ICE cars so are not a great used car prospect.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1357 on: January 20, 2020, 10:31:12 AM »
On the price of used EVs what Jocko says is generally true although the first generation Leafs have edged down a bit since the new 40 kwh battery came out. The 30 kwh battery version remained stubbornly high in the used market but it is possible to get a decent one for about 13,000 now - still pretty high.

I did see a 24 kwh Leaf for 5,000 a few weeks ago on Autotrader. It was high mileage and had lost 2 capacity bars which equates to about a 21% reduction in range. Ideal second car.

The last journey I did that required a decent range was our holiday in Scotland in September last year. Discounting that because I'd happily hire an ICE car for a UK holiday, my last trip that was outside the range of a 24kwh or 30 kwh Leaf was a trip to Abergele in North Wales last August.

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« Reply #1358 on: January 20, 2020, 12:48:07 PM »
I've watched a few Leafs go through on Copart recently with minimal damage. That's where my next car will be coming from, so long as I can plan ahead and not end up with another 'distress purchase'.  ::)

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« Reply #1359 on: January 23, 2020, 01:21:48 PM »
Tesla has displaced Volkswagen as the world's second most valuable carmaker, after a dramatic rise in share price pushed its market value to more than $100bn (76.1bn). It is now only behind Toyota in value.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51214824

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« Reply #1360 on: January 23, 2020, 06:51:05 PM »
https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/02/11/tesla-stock-upgraded-what-you-need-to-know.aspx

Different take on valuation of tsla shares, apparently since 2010 tsla have never paid a dividend, and shares can be valued or downvalued on a whim of one financial institution -  tesla autopilot has been involved in quite a few accidents, so how they can say tesla has a commanding lead in autonomous car tech is beyond me, they refused to use lidar and other companies are closing in on them fast, plus tesla have laid off quite a few workers, which will affect their production and delivery schedules.
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« Reply #1361 on: January 23, 2020, 08:06:36 PM »
A link to a piece which is almost a year old.

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« Reply #1362 on: January 23, 2020, 08:49:38 PM »
A link to a piece which is almost a year old.

If you scroll down you will see update 22 jan 2020 but may need to be subscriber to see full article
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« Reply #1363 on: January 23, 2020, 09:07:10 PM »
Right enough. That's the bit that says how well Tesla is doing now.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #1364 on: January 27, 2020, 10:46:46 AM »
On EV's looks like my youngest might get an old Nissan Leaf. She's 38 and, although she had driving lessons years ago she never took a test. She has a 6 mile commute to work and everywhere she goes is within 10 miles. We've talked about car swaps on the odd occasion she needs to go further afield so I might get to drive an EV without owning one. She'll obviously only qualify for an automatic only driving licence but there is a driving school near here with a couple of EVs (Zoe's I think).

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