Honda Jazz 2006-2014 & Insight Takata airbag recall

[guest5305]

Just got a recall letter for the front passengar airbag! Apparently some '03 and '04 models have over-pressurised airbags which, if inflated, could reslt in the inflator rupturing and metal fragments "passing into the passenger compartment". 

I'm going on a long drive next Wednesday so I rang the Honda garage and asked if they could fit me in before then, as not overjoyed at the idea of my first motorway drive with a potentially dodgy airbag!

[marymck]

... or rather, when a recall is not a recall.

I had a letter today from Honda that both my front passenger and driver airbags are subject to a safety recall.  BUT Honda won't have the parts to do the rectifications until late September at the earliest!  That's a long time to be driving with knowledge of a potentially fatal fault.  Apparently Honda have known about this for years and it appears at least eight people may have died as a result of shrapnel being exploded into the passenger compartment when the airbag deployed.

I drive a 2006 Honda Jazz, but it seems millions of cars are affected, across lots of brands.  The defective airbags were made by a company called Takata, I think in Mexico.

I'm setting off on a journey of a couple of hundred miles tomorrow and I'm not comforted by the Honda customer services lady's assurance that "there's only a problem if the airbags deploy" and that it's more likely to happen in hot and humid weather.

I asked that the airbags be disconnected, but she said they're not allowed to do that.

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[monkeydave]

if they have lasted since 2006 they will be fine. i would be more worried about them destroying the dash board when they replace them

[guest4283]

Takata is an automotive parts company based in Japan. Their Mexican subsidiary screwed up in "...manufacture of explosive propellants and improperly stored chemicals used in airbags...".

Affected cars are from BMW, Chrysler, Ford, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, and Toyota.

Honda stated they knew of more than 100 injuries and eight deaths (seven in the United States plus one in Malaysia) that were related to Takata airbags.

Drive careful people!

I suggest wearing protective eye goggles and a leather flying jacket zipped up.

[Ozzie]

I have just looked at DVLA recall pages and its for Jazzs built between June 2003 and September 2004, http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA%20JAZZ)%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx=

[bill ericay]

I have just looked at DVLA recall pages and its for Jazzs built between June 2003 and September 2004, http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA%20JAZZ)%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx=

Whoops!!!!  Page 2 shows Jazz 2003-2008.

[guest4283]

Whoops!!!!  Page 2 shows Jazz 2003-2008.

I don't see that. Only page 3 lists airbag problems:
10/06/2003 -   02/09/2004
25/12/2002 -   23/04/2003
21/09/2001 -   27/12/2002

[bill ericay]

Link http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=2&pagesize=10&resultString=(HONDA JAZZ)  for the date range 01/Jan/2013 to 01/Jul/2015&tx=
Gives me 2 pages of Honda recalls unless I'm looking at it wrong.

[bill ericay]

Just tried it again and the link has changed !
Anyway change the dates of search from Jan 2013  to July 2015 and you get 2 pages which includes Jazz up to 2008.

[bill ericay]

Or----
_launch_date < date() AND recalls.rec_launch_date Between #1/Jan/2013# And #31/07/2015# AND UCase(models.rmo_make) LIKE "%HONDA%" AND UCase(models.rmo_model) LIKE "%JAZZ%" ORDER BY rec_launch_date ASC   

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Criteria : (HONDA JAZZ) for the date range 01/Jan/2013 to 01/Jul/2015
Information : Click on the recalls number to expand the detail and hover over the concern for a quick insight into the defect
Please note that certain recalls have the same reference number, but relate to different models/variants of the same manufacturer/vehicle. 


#

Launch Date

Recalls Number

Make

Model(s)

Concern

VIN Start

VIN End

Build Start

Build End


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29/06/2015 R/2015/103 HONDA Civic, CR-V & Jazz    drivers airbag may rupture if deployed
  LUCGE273053200017 LUCGE375073202553   

12
29/06/2015 R/2015/103 HONDA Civic, CR-V & Jazz    drivers airbag may rupture if deployed
  JHMGD18504S215442 JHMGD57307S203184   

13
29/06/2015 R/2015/104 HONDA Accord, Accord Tourer, Civic, CR-V, Insight, Jazz & Stream    passenger side airbag may fail to deploy correctly
  MRHGM15209P010001 MRHGM16609P050438 25/12/2003 29/12/2008

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29/06/2015 R/2015/104 HONDA Accord, Accord Tourer, Civic, CR-V, Insight, Jazz & Stream    passenger side airbag may fail to deploy correctly
  LUCGE273063200001 LUCGE377083208730 25/12/2003 29/12/2008

15
29/06/2015 R/2015/104 HONDA Accord, Accord Tourer, Civic, CR-V, Insight, Jazz & Stream    passenger side airbag may fail to deploy correctly
  JHMGE67809S200015 JHMGG17409S207287 25/12/2003 29/12/2008

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29/06/2015 R/2015/104 HONDA Accord, Accord Tourer, Civic, CR-V, Insight, Jazz & Stream    passenger side airbag may fail to deploy correctly
  JHMGD17504S205055 JHMGD57308S201153 25/12/2003 29/12/2008

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[guest4283]

This is what I see:

Criteria : (HONDA JAZZ) for the date range 01/Jan/1992 to 01/Jan/2015

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=3&pagesize=10&resultString=%28HONDA%20JAZZ%29%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jan/2015&tx=

[guest4283]

Ok, got it on page 4:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/search.asp?whichpage=4&pagesize=10&resultString=%28HONDA%20JAZZ%29%20%20for%20the%20date%20range%2001/Jan/1992%20to%2001/Jul/2015&tx=

Now excuse me will I nip down the shops to buy some goggles

[marymck]

This website has further details ...

http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive-takata-airbag-recall-everything-you-need-to-know-including-full-list-of-affected-vehicles/

It seems the exploding airbags send shrapnel flying through the passenger compartment, so short of a kevlar full bodysuit there's not a lot we can do unless we mothball our cars till the parts arrive.

The lady I spoke to at Honda confirmed that both my front passenger and driver airbags are affected.  (In some cases it's one or the other.)

Some may think that because of shortage of spares Honda have dealt with the most litigious countries (Japan and the USA) before moving on to the rest of the world.

Honda did try to phone me yesterday afternoon, but I was on the motorway and so didn't get their message to ring them back until they'd closed for the weekend.  I'll report back after I've spoken to them. 

This has definitely taken a lot of the pleasure out of my current driving holiday!

[marymck]

Honda have a video about the issue here ...

http://hondaairbaginfo.com/

... but I think some of the info is only aimed at Americans, because they say if parts aren't available drivers can be loaned a car.  That's not the case in the UK, where we have to keep calm and carry on.  (Or ride the bomb, Slim Pickins style.)

[culzean]

Some may think that because of shortage of spares Honda have dealt with the most litigious countries (Japan and the USA) before moving on to the rest of the world.

Honda did try to phone me yesterday afternoon, but I was on the motorway and so didn't get their message to ring them back until they'd closed for the weekend.  I'll report back after I've spoken to them. 

This has definitely taken a lot of the pleasure out of my current driving holiday!

Manufacturers seem to be targeting countries because their weather is hotter and more humid,  both seem to be risk factors in this problem.  I guess they will get round to temperate / cold countries later - Unless you are driving in Florida / Southern USA / South Asia  don't let it spoil your holiday

It's very telling that Toyota and Honda were the first to move for recall of vehicles because of this problem.
( I always think some companies are more pro-active than others recalling because of faults,  its not that they make more faulty vehicles its just that they fess up when they have a problem and don't try to hide it - not issuing recalls is known as 'doing a Chrysler' in USA).

Looks like BMW doesn't think much of people who drive its cars 'BMW is now the last automaker (of five) holding out from NHTSA’s demand for a nationwide airbag recall on affected vehicles'

One other thing bothers me,  Honda has a car plant in Mexico