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Those dreaded snatchy brakes
« on: January 02, 2015, 06:41:47 PM »
I have tried to live with the snatchy brakes on my 2010 1.4 EX I shift.  Some days OK but others, they really play up. I am wondering if you chaps out there, sorry ladies as well, can offer some advice.
I did a post on Warranties and the front discs were replaced by the dealer after I made a fuss. The pads however were not. I can only assume that the pads are Honda. As it was so rightly pointed out brakes are consumables  and so I cannot see how my changing the pads for another would affect my guarantee.
Here's the question. What pads to use? In the past on our previous cars I have used both Ferodo, Mintex and some from Europarts all gave very good braking with no fade and certainly no grab.



I recently came across some info which I cannot be sure of BUT Honda  Jazz rear discs were quoted as the same fitment as a Rover 25????? Some difference in price.
On a different tack, the handbrake. Looking at the Jazz rear brakes, exploded view, they APPEAR to be the same as my old Rover 45. Yes I know there probably are differences BUT the 45 was based on a Honda Civic. On every MOT the handbrake on the Rover was always excellent. The chap who does my MOT's said it was among the best. Looking at the 'pictures' the system appears to have the same set up, with a compensator and two cables. All the bits of the caliper appear to be the same. The pads appear to be identical ( Until I grovel underneath I cannot be sure) so why the difference?    If the info re rear disc is accurate then the pads are probably the same OH for an expert comparison chart.
I logged onto a website of a Honda dealer who actually publishes the prices of spare parts. I compared a 2009 1.5 LSPO manual and a  2009 1.4 EX with I shift. fixing for the undertray different part nos BUT identical identification on the exploded view same job. The manual price was was £2.47 and the I shift was  £3.22. Here's one to make your eyes water. The I shift change assembly referred to as the Bracket comp base The lump under the gear lever £948.10  Handbrake cable referred to as a wire parking brake £124.74 each side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Those dreaded snatchy brakes
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2015, 07:28:04 PM »
I too find the brakes on my 2010 1.4 Jazz very sharp but only sometimes at slow speeds such as moving very slowly in traffic when a dab on the brakes is required.

My previous Jazz, a GD, exhibited no such problems.

Can it be cured by a change to a different make of brake pads, if so, what make ?

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Re: Those dreaded snatchy brakes
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2015, 01:27:53 PM »
I find brakes on all modern small cars need a very very delicate touch - especially after transitioning from big heavy 4*4 or a bigger saloon car.
I think the EU weight reduction directives are responsible. There is simply less mass to stop and the brakes draw you up quickly.

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Re: Those dreaded snatchy brakes
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2015, 01:47:00 PM »
About 18 months ago I suffered spinal column damage that left me with no feeling in my feet and six fingers. To keep me mobile I had 'Jeff  Gosling' hand controls fitted to my Honda Jazz 1.4 EX Auto. I can now drive the car fine using just my hands (it took some getting used to), but find that my braking at very low speeds is very 'snatchy'. I am gradually improving with my low speed braking, but I am not sure if it will ever be as smooth as when using my feet. Braking at normal driving speeds is not a problem.

Incidentally, with these hand controls fitted, the car can still be driven by my wife and son, using the usual foot pedal controls. And I can drive with my wellies on or in my bare feet! Every cloud.......

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Re: Those dreaded snatchy brakes
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2015, 02:31:46 PM »
I was hoping for someone who has dealt with this problem by changing the pads to come up with the goods!!!!!PLEASE


I did some research and found that by comparing part numbers the only common part between Rover brakes and Honda Jazz are the front discs.

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Re: Those dreaded snatchy brakes
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 04:07:05 PM »
Just done an update: The brake fluid has been changed FOC by the dealer. Brakes oh so different. No snatching!!!!!

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