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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 09:31:32 AM »
By a large margin ahead of second-placed Toyota, too, while Toyota is some margin ahead of Benz (third) looking at these stats. Thanks, Richard.

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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 12:56:09 PM »
BMW ?  Diesel swirl flaps and turbos
VAG? Coils, oil pumps on TDI engines
Mercedes? mostly anything on diesels

Toyota? 2.2 diesel issues.

Honda don't make many diesels..

See any common factor? :-)

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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 02:57:33 PM »
I think this is the reason why Toyota, Honda and Mercedes-Benz cars always appear in the top 10 car sales in SA.  VW, Ford and Mazda swop places below 5.  If you are in the sticks hundreds of kilometres from a garage you do not want your engine to fail.
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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 03:40:11 PM »
I always carried a tow rope and jump leads when driving in SA.

And did tow someone 50kms to a service station when they broke down...

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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 08:38:45 PM »
BMW 330d's are notorious for digesting their swirl flaps - cost? úDon't.Ask, but enough to cancel out any savings by going diesel. DPF/DMF issues are common across many diesels (Honda included).

Edit: I don't think Honda's 2.2 diesel has a DPF?
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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 08:59:09 PM »
IIRC, some diesels (VAG cars and maybe others) a few years back had DPFs as an option.

Why on earth you'd specify a DPF through your own choice is beyond me. Tax advantage maybe?

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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 09:00:00 PM »
They obviously have not heard my engine. It has piston slap when cold and a noise when hot that sounds just like a little end. If it was not a Honda I would be convinced it was the little end but everyone says Honda engines do not throw little ends.

Had a full Honda service history when I bought it and then oil changes every 6 months. I am also careful not to overload the engine hen cold.

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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2013, 09:51:33 AM »
my previou car golf mark five 1.6 fsi sounded more like a diesel at 40,00 milesthe engine was noisy from new, the main dealer insisted they were all the same, it also needed a gearbox at 15000 miles. and had several ongoing electrial problems. i dumped it in april last year and replaced it with a jazz 1.4, so far no problems  at 7000 miles.]
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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 09:55:30 PM »
Mine has developed piston slap when cold, but I'd be dumbfounded if anything actually failed on the DSI engine.

I'd also like to know the split between petrol and diesel. My other car (old Volvo) has a petrol engine that at 14yrs old runs as sweet as new at a modest 130kmiles (the engine mounts give the game away a bit though). The diesels always need attention by now though.
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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 12:57:24 PM »
I'd also like to know the split between petrol and diesel.

I suspect most manufacturers have engine failure issues with diesels. eg BMW swirl flaps. Renault turbos, BMW turbos , etc..

Modern diesel technology is evolving very quickly and people are experimenting on their customers.

The exception is VAG: coil packs, turbos, superchargers TSI engines..  - all on petrol engines. And oil pumps on diesels  You sometimes think they have stretched design staff too thinly...

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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2014, 08:22:11 PM »
Main cause of diesel problems is the EGR valve.
I needed 2 >:( on my old ford & neighbour has just had one done on his Audi A6.
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Re: Honda comes top in engine reliability survey
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2014, 12:42:31 PM »
I would agree that the engine is an excellent piece of engineering, but the bodies seem no better than most other cars.  Very thin steel, the thinnest of paint and not much rust prevention

My friend lives about 300m from the sea and although her Jazz (a 2005 model) is garaged, the area near the tailgate on the roof has started to rust from the inside and also the top of the windscreen, although the screen was replaced a few years back due to a stone cracking it
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