Moving from a Mk1 Jazz

[TnTkr]

If your future Mk3 is manufactured 2019 or earlier, you can add a spare wheel. You can see the shopping list from my thread post #40.

https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=12071.30

[SpookyGal]

If you normally drive a manual and dont need an automatic I'd avoid CVT.   Although i admit I have never driven one.    Unless your budget extends to a mk4 , which despite Honda still  calling it a CVT is a different thing entirely. Those are so  good I'd never buy another manual car.

I am going to give a Mk4 a try in due course. I have never driven an automatic but hear the hybrid is a good one. I have also got Google Maps on my phone, so I am happy to use that rather than rely on the sat nav if there are issues. Will read up about it though.

[SpookyGal]

If your future Mk3 is manufactured 2019 or earlier, you can add a spare wheel. You can see the shopping list from my thread post #40.

https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=12071.30

Thank you 

[FarNorthJazz]

Lack of a spare wheel is not a problem.   As Colin B stated in post #4 above,  all Mk3 came with a tyre repair kit and no spare wheel

However,  the sheet metal stamping under the boot floor is shaped to accomodate a full size spare wheel (or a space saver if you prefer).  Spare wheels,  sometimes including a tyre are advertised regularly on ebay.  After I bought my Mk 3 I was able to get an original alloy wheel + tyre to match those on the car at a very reasonable cost.  There are also suppliers who can supply generic space saver wheel / tyre / jack kits.  (If you buy just a wheel on ebay you will need to source a jack.  Ebay often has genuine Honda Jazz jacks)

The only thing to watch for is some late 2018 and most 2019 cars.  The sheet metal floor stamping was changed on these models.  There is some space under the boot floor but it will not take a full size spare.  A space saver may fit,  but will be higher than the boot floor cover and needs a bit of bodging to get a tidy fit

[TnTkr]

The only thing to watch for is some late 2018 and most 2019 cars.  The sheet metal floor stamping was changed on these models.  There is some space under the boot floor but it will not take a full size spare.

Timing may not be quite that early. I have seen the new low floor pan only in MY2020 Jazzes.

[2robbie2]

Hi - I have a post-2019 Honda Jazz and can confirm that the boot floor is not deep enough for a full size spare wheel. However, it does fit a space saver spare wheel (I have one myself) and while it does sit very slightly proud of the boot floor (barely noticeable), I have covered this with a Jazz boot liner so it is not visible.

However, there is no fixing point for the space saver spare wheel and so I have stuffed a few sheets underneath and around it to stop it moving. I have also attached ratchet tie down straps from the wheel to the boot anchor points to prevent it coming free in the event of an accident (a loose wheel flying about would be extremely dangerous).

[TnTkr]

2robbie2, do you know the manufacturing date of your Jazz? Is it MY2020?

[2robbie2]

Hi TnTkr - it was registered on 31/12/19 and the year of manufacture was 2019. I have seen the earlier models (up to 2018) and can see that these had a deeper boot floor that could accommodate a full size spare wheel.

[TnTkr]

Hi 2robbie2 I assume yours is then MY2020, isn't it. That can be seen from the 10th digit of the VIN. MY2020 is L.

[ColinB]

Honda’s definition of “model year” doesn’t seem to relate to when a car was manufactured or bought, but rather to whenever the marketing department decide to trumpet “next year’s model”. So a car bought in late 2019 is probably a MY2020 model, and my own car (bought in October 2015) is apparently a MY2016 car.

BTW, the sure-fire way to check if any particular car has room for a spare wheel is to look for the hold down fitting. Lift out the foam insert under the boot floor and there should be a welded bracket with a captive nut to take the wheel securing bolt. If it’s there, then you can stow a full-size spare; if it’s not then there certainly isn’t room for a full-size spare, and even a space-saver is tight with no easy way to secure it safely. 

[TnTkr]

That's same with most manufacturers, and it is up to manufacturer to decide when they change the model year in the production line. The 10th digit in VIN tells the model year, no matter what is the production date. Cars may have spent several months in Honda Europe storage area in Belgium, so date of selling is not telling much. Dealer should be able to tell you the exact manufacturing date of your car. At least I got the date from Honda.

I am asking because I would like to verify if the shallow pan is feature for MY2020 or is it taken into production some random time.

[2robbie2]

Hi TnTkr - the 10th digit of my VIN is also L - hope this helps. 

Hi Colin B - you're right that it is tight to fit a space saver, but ironically that helps to ensure that it doesn't move around (supplemented by the sheets I have stuffed around mine). In terms of securing it safely, this actually wasn't a problem - the ratchet tie down straps I purchased should ensure that it is as safe as the traditional hold down fitting in the event of the car flipping over in an accident, with further security provided by the boot liner that I have used to cover the floor. Clearly, it would have been better to have a deep wheel well as I could then store a full-size spare wheel - but a space saver is in my humble opinion considerably better than the tyre repair kit. 

I also have 5 full size Honda OEM spare wheels at home (long story! ) - so in the event of a puncture, I just need to get home to replace properly. Given that 99% of my journeys are within the same region where I live, the space saver is only needed for a relatively short distance to get me home in an emergency.

[TnTkr]

Hi TnTkr - the 10th digit of my VIN is also L - hope this helps. 

Thank you! This far no-on has come up with 2019 model (10th digit K) with the shallow boot floor. All with deep one like mine.

[Lord Voltermore]

Here is how I carry and secure a full sized spare in my Mk4, which has no spare wheel well at all ,let alone a shallow one.  Although at first sight this appears  quite intrusive  the height of the wheel is only about 200 mm (8") There  is still enough room (IMO) for shopping and luggage.  I can lay a medium sized suitcase on top of the wheel yet still under the boot cover.

I accept a mk3 is different to a mk 4, but I would have thought even the shallow well  will reduce the wheels intrusion by a useful amount.   It may be possible to level the boot floor to the same height as the wheel by using simple pieces of timber of a suitable thickness on the boot floor with an  easily lifted false floor of hardboard etc. This arrangement might only reduce the  remaining boot height by a small amount , or alternatively may give useful storage space hidden under the false floor, .   The false floor would also contribute towards keeping the wheel  secure/safe.

Has anyone with a shallow well done this and able to provide a photo , or some idea of the measurement involved?     

[2robbie2]

Hi Lord Voltermore

Your Mk3 full size spare wheel solution is an excellent one (slightly raising the boot floor to accommodate a full-size spare wheel) -  if I regularly went on long distance journeys, that is what I definitely seek to do (not really necessary for me at the moment as 99% of my use is short local journeys where a space saver will suffice).

I actually thought your spare wheel wasn't that intrusive - the dark grey bag/holdall gives it a smart luggage type appearance - if I ever trade up to a Mk4, that's what I will do!