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Lord Voltermore

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Re: Battery failure
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2026, 09:48:37 AM »
the english language just has too many words for the "same" thing)

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Re: Battery failure
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2026, 10:21:28 AM »
There, Their, They're..... never mind
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Re: Battery failure
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2026, 05:20:47 PM »
Sorry for the delay in updating. I bought a new Bosch S4018 battery from Tayna for £55.43 and fitted it myself. (I think Quikfit wanted £135 to include fitting). The car is working fine now, so the original Panasonic factory battery after 4 years was dead. Considering the 12v battery doesn’t spin a starter motor I would have thought they ought to last 10 years!

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Re: Battery failure
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2026, 06:47:07 PM »
Sorry for the delay in updating. I bought a new Bosch S4018 battery from Tayna for £55.43 and fitted it myself. (I think Quikfit wanted £135 to include fitting). The car is working fine now, so the original Panasonic factory battery after 4 years was dead. Considering the 12v battery doesn’t spin a starter motor I would have thought they ought to last 10 years!

I also recently had to replace the 12v battery and bought the same Bosch, no troubles since!

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Re: Battery failure
« Reply #19 on: Today at 08:32:20 AM »
So yesterday the same thing happened to me. I tried the update, it didn't take long, just a few minutes, the update wasn't available, just the manual, so I let it download, halfway through the download (via wi-fi), the main display went out and the driver's display showed various warnings about problems. I tried turning the car off and on again - nothing, everything was locked incl. the gear lever.

It's my first hybrid, I didn't know what it was, I thought the car had somehow locked up in the software. I called Honda Assistance, they don't advise anything, they send a tow truck, the tow truck doesn't advise either (even though they could), they just load the car up and take it to the Honda service center.

The mechanic told me that it was a dead 12V battery. Apparently there is a fuse in the car that says that if the 12V battery is discharged below a certain level, the car simply won't go any further. He told me that all I had to do was use a jump starter (which I have in my car, of course), and then drive the car to a place where the 12V battery can be recharged. A tow truck could have easily done it, and charged the battery only enough to put the car in "N" and load it. Because if they started the car, they would have lost money on the transport.
I was also told by the tow truck that they come out to "dead" hybrids quite often.

The mechanic told me that every time I enter the infotainment system (update, set up, tune the radio, etc.) the car must be started (or in EV mode - so that the engine can start right away), otherwise the 12V battery will discharge. And since it's really small, it will discharge pretty quickly.

It's quite disappointing to me that the 12V battery can discharge so quickly and cause such problems.
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Re: Battery failure
« Reply #20 on: Today at 08:37:53 AM »
I'll post again that if a car lead/acid battery becomes completely flattened then the alternator or whatever can't fully recover it. It only performs a stage 2 charge

Had the same in a Metro where the lights were left on and even after a 200 mile trip the battery still discharged overnight

The mechanic explained about the stage 1 and 2 charges

I wonder if a CTEK can perform the factory stage 1 charge that keeps batteries alive on forecourts until bought and fitted ?
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Lord Voltermore

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Re: Battery failure
« Reply #21 on: Today at 10:43:53 AM »
advanced smart chargers can do a desulfation cycle  that can restore  badly discharged batteries .   I think it uses very rapid charging  pulses to blast away any  sulphur crystals that have formed on the lead plates. 

Some more basic, cheaper, smart chargers may not include this function.
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