Suggestions for my next Jazz?

[Johnocyprus]

Until recently we were  dedicated to driving older cars I had a 2007 CRV and my wife had a 2008 Honda Jazz. We could have bought later versions but choose not to. Thought we were being wise saving the pennies.  My wife’s catalytic converter was stolen on the Jazz which prompted her to buy a Mk3 Jazz and I ended up with a 2022 Toyota Corolla 2 litre estate car.
It’s like night and day. Almost like the horse and cart. The modern safety systems are wonderful and the hybrid power delivery available in modern cars is a revelation.
If you can afford it embrace the modern technology just  stick to Honda or Toyota.

[Lord Voltermore]

There are good reasons for keeping an older car for longer. Particularly for savings on depreciation.  I bought my Yaris new and kept it 14 years

But I  agree with Johnocyprus  that some of the latest cars are a revelation.  The mk4 Jazz hybrid system really is a major step forward in sophistication,silence and fuel economy compared to earlier ICE  cars.

Despite some improvements over recent years  the mk1, 2 and 3 Jazz are all fundamentally similar in their use of technology from the 20th century.(as are cars of that era from other manufacturers)   For such cars you make  decisions based on costs and perhaps some nostalgia for the old and familiar. 

The mk4 undoubtedly raises the stakes financially.  Some will not be able to afford one. But for those who can   I urge them to also consider how much they might value the significant improvements  it brings.    Take one for  test drive. Many will find it a revelation that will justify the extra costs involved .   (But allow for the fact  you might initially find the surreal and very quiet driving experience a bit daunting. )     The mk4s' advantages does mean it holds its value quite well.

[CRC]

I fully accept everything you say about hybrids and the way they deliver power etc, but the thing that concerns me most is the battery replacement costs of the lithium ion battery if you intend to keep the car for a number of years.

Most EVs and hybrid main batteries are composed of hundreds or  thousands of 18650 lithium batteries connected together in series to produce high DC voltage and parallel to give range, with all the charging and discharging controlled by clever BMS electronic controllers.

A "well to do" mate had a 2016, 85 grand Tesla from new and loved it, the acceleration was mind blowing and you really did have to "brace" ready for when he floored it. Truly amazing car.

When it reached 7 years old and 68k miles, it was worth about 10 grand, reason being that Tesla only warranted the main battery for 7 years meaning a 20 to 30 grand replacement cost on a 7 year old car if it went wrong ..... which it duly did not long after the warranty expired.

Regardless of how good the car is, batteries age and eventually fail, and with the early mk 4 Jazzes being 6 years old now, the clock is ticking.....

I am a bit "old fashioned" about how much things cost these days.

In 2006, my next door neighbour bought a 2.5 TDI Skoda Superb Elegance for £25k. I bought it from him when it was just coming up to 3 years old with 26k miles on the clock for £8k, which matched the best trade in offer he had received. 16 years later, I've still got it and it's a great car.

I'd imagine I would have to find perhaps £22k or thereabouts for a 3 year old Jazz,
and I think I'd struggle to find a10 year old Jazz for the £8k I spent on the Skoda.

Car price inflation has been crazy ....

[jaytee]

more like 15 to 18 k for a 3 year old Jazz i would have thought,still not cheap but great MPG and would hope fora good 7 to 10 years before a new batteryis required.