Spare Wheel

[Rocks Court]

Just joined Forum having recently acquired a '74 plate Crosstar.  Only had this for around a month but very pleased so far.  I have been looking for a solution to the spare wheel problem and have just sorted this out to my satisfaction.  I have bought a 16" space saver wheel/tyre and a bag to contain it.  This  is now in place in the off-side rear passenger footwell where it fits nicely lying flat with the driver's seat in its rearmost position.   We seldom have more that two of us in the car, but, when we do, we can easily move the bag/wheel to the boot where it sits flat and can be held down by a ratchet strap.  Jack, wheelbrace etc fit nicely in the well under the boot floor.  I do feel a bit unhappy about depending on a tin of gunk to fix a puncture....

[Downsizer]

…..and if you use the gunk, the tyre cannot then be repaired.

[Lincolnshire Rambler]

My first jazz puncture was a small sideway tear (rock in beachside car park ). The tyre seal just bubbled out of the hole . Took the AA to arrive with a multi car space saver to allow driving to the nearby tyre place for a new tyre . I have only had three punctures in my driving since the age of 17 so a rare event for me . Had 4 windscreens in that timescale too

[Sean Regan]

I've just ordered a 16" space-saver wheel and jack for 23reg Crosstar.
Can anyone tell me what size bag for the wheel I should get? There seem to be several different sizes.
Thanks.

[Rocks Court]

Re Sean's post today-
The bag I have was from promotorgroupuk (on e-bay) described as "Bag for 125/85R16 Tyre".   It looks to be of reasonable quality.  It's a good fit for the space-saver but I don't think the OEM full-size wheel will fit in if I ever have to use it after a puncture...  Cost was £19.99 and it turned up the following day.

[Sean Regan]

Thanks for that, I didn't think about having to stop the punctured tyre from making a mess of the car.
I'll just have to a couple of large bin bags in the boot in case of emergency.

I've ordered the same one.

Just a general point, for anyone else reading this. If you get a puncture and you want to change a wheel yourself, you can't rely on the "Micky Mouse" wheel spanner supplied with the car, to always undo a nut tightened with an air gun, by a "well meaning mechanic." It may well be worth doing a "test" on a wheel nut, just in case.

I keep a socket and tommy bar from my socket set in the boot, plus a big ring spanner I can put over the end of the tommy bar if I need more leverage.

[Tombola]

I got a full size spare from The Wheelshop, came with a 3 tonne scissor jack, two sockets and extendable wheelbrace, I keep it in the boot and the jack and tools fit nicely in the storage box
  https://www.thewheelshop.co.uk/product/16-full-size-spare-wheel-185-60r16-tyre-tool-kit-compatible-with-honda-jazz-2008-present-day/

[ninanina]

Not having a spare wheel I thought would bother me when I purchased my Jazz

Nowadays I don’t even think about it. I’ve got the original repair gunk and compressor and the compressor is still wrapped in plastic from new

[Sean Regan]

Not having a spare wheel I thought would bother me when I purchased my Jazz

Nowadays I don’t even think about it. I’ve got the original repair gunk and compressor and the compressor is still wrapped in plastic from new

No disrespect, but you might think differently if you had the same experience as another poster. His situation made me decide to get a spare.

He said he had a puncture and used the "gunk" and that just oozed through the hole in the tyre.
He had to call the AA and they had to order a transporter to collect his car. It took hours!

At least with a spare, you can still call the AA to change it, then take the defective tyre and have it repaired.
Some tyre places won't attempt to repair a tyre that has been "gunked."

[coldstart]

No disrespect, but you might think differently if you had the same experience as another poster. His situation made me decide to get a spare...

Definitely no disrespect either!

I think, it is a question of where you are motoring the most:

- If your common driving takes you into "the wild" with bad roads (if any!) and scarce or absent mobile reception and far out from any kind of rescue, you should definitely come prepared!
- If you usually only make short runs in populated areas with good reception etc: why bother?

As a compromise:

I'm living in eastern Switzerland and we do (still) get snow, so I have two sets of wheels.
If you are in the same spot: Why not take one of the "other season" wheels with you? - It would still be a "spare" regardless of the season.
Otherwise you could always ask your friendly Honda dealership of choice for a spare wheel (and a jack) before going on a longer trip (worst case: They say "absolutely not")

just my 2 cents

[JB]

Just to add, I've been driving for 60 years, I earned my living as a class one hgv driver
for 40 years in all that time of owning cars with a spare wheel I have never had to use
one, although I always carried a foot pump which had to be used 3 or 4 times when I had a
slow punture to get me home or garage for repair or new tyre never touched the spare in
any car I've owned.

[aphybrid]

from previus posts on this - here are photoes of my full size OEM wheel and below trolley jack''

Both through Amazon - wheel coverFerocity Black wheel cover 15-18" Size XXL Tyre Bag Protector (£8.99) &  AA Car Essentials AA3282 Vehicle Trolley Jack (£31.00) - in 2021

[Nicksey]

I recently had the OEM Yokohama blue earths replaced after 30k with Toyo proxes comforts, and very good they are too. However, one of the Yokohamas on the rear still has 5mm (astounding after 30k, the other had 3.5mm), so I have retained it as a spare.
Question: Do I buy a 16" steel wheel for it, or would I need an alloy to match and balance the other 3 corners for it?
I intend to bung it in the boot as a spare when we do touring journeys up to Scotland/Lakes/Northumberland etc. to nullify having to use the gunk in the event of a flat.