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Lord Voltermore

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2025, 01:53:17 PM »
This means the detection camera view  is temporarily obstructed and cannot be relied on to be accurate.  Caused by things such as condensation  ,snow , generally dirty or something sudden like a large  insect being splattered on that area of the screen as you drive.   
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2025, 03:10:40 PM »
Tombola: yes, today they really are „freezing snow conditions„…  ;D

The title of this thread really applies. The software and paintwork are the biggest weaknesses of this new Jazz.

Lord Voltermore: Detection camera view was OK.
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2025, 03:21:31 PM »
Maybe you should consult the owners manual?

... which is all well and good, but how do you consult the manual when you are driving and an unknown symbol appears?

You have to try to remember EXACTLY what symbol it was, stop the car, turn it off before you can access the inbuilt manual.

Hardly user friendly is it?

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2025, 03:36:52 PM »
Maybe you should consult the owners manual?

... which is all well and good, but how do you consult the manual when you are driving and an unknown symbol appears?

The same way as how you write a question here when you are driving and an unknown symbol appears?
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2025, 05:20:06 PM »
Today for a change this screen appeared while driving. I have no idea what the symbol in the middle of the screen and the yellow symbols on the left side are.

Again, I didn't set or change anything.

As others have already pointed out it means that the camera in the top middle of the windscreen has been found to malfunction.
If you are certain, that this area of the windscreen was clean at the relevant time(s), you should talk to your Honda dealership about this, as there might be another more "technical" glitch involved which should be pursued to its root cause!


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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2025, 05:57:02 PM »
It can be helpful to activate these explanatory texts in the settings, so you don't need to memorize what the symbol means.

Vehicle Settings > Meter setup > Warning message > ON

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2025, 06:01:10 PM »
It can be helpful to activate these explanatory texts in the settings, so you don't need to memorize what the symbol means.

Vehicle Settings > Meter setup > Warning message > ON

I can't fathom why Honda chose to not turn this setting ON by default!


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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2025, 06:17:41 PM »
It can be helpful to activate these explanatory texts in the settings, so you don't need to memorize what the symbol means.

Vehicle Settings > Meter setup > Warning message > ON

OK, thanks, I will try.  :)

coldstart: but it doesn't address the cause. My windshield was clean, and I had washed the car the day before.
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2025, 06:39:24 PM »
coldstart: but it doesn't address the cause. My windshield was clean, and I had washed the car the day before.

okay, that's what I thought as it isn't exactly the season for the windscreen to get clogged by snow :D

-> you should definitely talk to your dealership of choice about this issue, as there may be something amiss with your car!
(best to have it sorted while it's still new and under warranty)


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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2025, 07:15:38 AM »
It can be helpful to activate these explanatory texts in the settings, so you don't need to memorize what the symbol means.

Vehicle Settings > Meter setup > Warning message > ON

I can't fathom why Honda chose to not turn this setting ON by default!

Then you need to study the EU General Product Safety Regulation which says the warning messages need to be in local language. As not all European languages are supported in the car, then you, as the driver, have to make the decision to turn on.

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2025, 09:13:33 AM »
coldstart: but it doesn't address the cause. My windshield was clean, and I had washed the car the day before.

okay, that's what I thought as it isn't exactly the season for the windscreen to get clogged by snow :D

True , but it is the season when flying insects  tend to splatter the front of moving cars, even if its only just been washed.  Any insect remains within the detection area may disrupt signals  enough that the system shuts down for safety reasons and prompts you to clean the windscreen.  But its not only those soft bodied insects that leave a terrible mess. Hard bodied insects can trigger the warning yet blow away again after a few seconds leaving little or no trace.  Even washer/wipers may not be enough to clear the mess. I often have to  clean  tenacious bug remains off the screen manually during long summer trips.  Less   often in the UK where there  are noticeably  fewer insects , due (IMO)  to over use of  herbicides and pesticides.
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2025, 11:10:13 AM »
Today for a change this screen appeared while driving. I have no idea what the symbol in the middle of the screen and the yellow symbols on the left side are.

Again, I didn't set or change anything.
I think it means the camera is disabled and the symbols on the left are the safety features that are temporarily not working, Lane keep assist, RDMS etc, often occurs in freezing snow conditions
I used "often occurs in freezing snow conditions" as one of the many examples why the symbols would appear, I'm glad some found it amusing, just trying to help, for more info RTFM
« Last Edit: June 15, 2025, 10:00:48 AM by Tombola »

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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2025, 07:25:32 PM »
Then you need to study the EU General Product Safety Regulation which says the warning messages need to be in local language. As not all European languages are supported in the car, then you, as the driver, have to make the decision to turn on.

Thank you for this clarification!
(sometimes EU regulations, however well-meant, might appear just somewhat "over the top")


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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2025, 07:45:50 PM »
I envy drivers in the USA, Australia, Japan. They don't have to deal with such nonsense.
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Re: Software - Jazz's weakest part
« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2025, 09:28:45 PM »
I envy drivers in the USA, Australia, Japan. They don't have to deal with such nonsense.
I have heard that they don't need to suffer from the speedometer deviation either. Here in EU, because of some regulations, the speedometers of all cars overestimate the speed by a few %.

It would be nice if there was some way in the menu or software to calibrate the speedometer, to make it more accurate.

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