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PeteT

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Crosstar blind spot detection
« on: February 07, 2025, 12:31:32 PM »
Having had a Jazz for the last 3 years and being very happy with it,  we have just ordered a new Crosstar as my wife has back problems and finds the higher ride easier for access.
 I was disappointed to see that the one thing missing from the spec , compared to our previous Jazz, was the blind spot monitoring.  Does anyone know if this can be added to the Crosstar.
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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2025, 12:47:57 PM »
I doubt it as the sensors and wiring won't be there
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2025, 01:18:47 PM »
...the one thing missing from the spec , compared to our previous Jazz, was the blind spot monitoring.

That's not the only thing missing: no cross traffic monitor either... :(
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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2025, 01:35:11 PM »
...the one thing missing from the spec , compared to our previous Jazz, was the blind spot monitoring.

That's not the only thing missing: no cross traffic monitor either... :(

Perhaps it has "mildly irate" traffic monitoring instead?

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2025, 02:15:06 PM »
My guess is that Crosstar has a different rear bumber than the Jazz, and for some strange reason Honda didn't add the blind spot sensors to the Crosstar's rear bumper. I guess the cross traffic monitor uses the same sensors, which is also why cross traffic monitor is not found on the Crosstar.

Also I believe that Crosstar rides only 1 cm higher than the Jazz, because Crosstar has larger diameter tyres. Instead of buying Crosstar, it could be more affordable to just put larger diameter tyres on a regular Jazz, if they fit. I think they should fit, as I think the wheel wells have similar internal space in both cars. But this is just my guess, I haven't double checked with a measuring tape.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2025, 02:23:36 PM by ahavoja »

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2025, 02:55:33 PM »
I wouldn't think they could be added, I did a test drive in a Crosstar and didn't really notice the lack of Blind Spot and Rear Cross monitoring but after getting my Advance with these features I think I would miss them if I got a Crosstar which I am considering due to the slightly increased 30mm ride height. It is my understanding that the extra ride height is  due to slightly raised suspension, I will have to compare the two models at my dealers.   

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2025, 03:03:56 PM »
I wouldn't miss them either

I always reverse park so I've never triggered the cross traffic thingy. I'd better not post why I wouldn't miss the flashing door mirrors :)
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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2025, 03:36:19 PM »
I think I would miss them if I got a Crosstar

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I wouldn't miss them either


I'd better not post why I wouldn't miss the flashing door mirrors :)

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2025, 03:38:06 PM »
You could always ask the dealership.  But my guess is that even if it were technically possible it would be  astronomically expensive .

Blind spot mirrors ,perhaps from a 'normal' Jazz  with all its fancy radar transmitters and receivers might fit. And if you are very lucky maybe the crosstar wiring loom is the same and its onboard computer systems compatible with running the system  and  capable of being recalibrated to allow for the extra height above the road.  Already it will be expensive in parts and labour.  And its  only half the Job.

  The cross traffic monitor  (road rage  detector  ;D not really  )  would be a further expense,  if feasible.   Would it fit the Crosstar's different rear end treatment and size ?  And maybe one system  cant be programmed unless  both are installed.   

I would miss having blind spot detection and cross traffic monitoring.  But could manage without either  if unavailable  or the cost too high.   If  there was an option of either one or the other  I would probably chose cross traffic monitoring.  But only because it helps a bit when I sometimes have to reverse out of my drive. (reversing camera helps more).I can see  well enough anyway but the cross traffic warnings are an additional enhancement.   But blind spot detection might one day save an inattentive driver from a dangerous lane change. Although I like to think I dont need it   :-[  Ho hum.

If retrofitted to a crosstar you might have to declare it to insurers as a modification ,even though it enhances safety. 

Maybe one day someone will do the modification on a cross star thats  out of warranty, using used parts.
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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2025, 05:41:34 PM »
Having had a Jazz for the last 3 years and being very happy with it,  we have just ordered a new Crosstar as my wife has back problems and finds the higher ride easier for access.

I'm very sorry to hear about your wife's back problems!

Have you considered the new 2025 HR-V Advance (it has the blind spot information and cross traffic monitor)?

The price difference isn't that big and maybe your wife might find it even more comfortable (e.g. with dual zone air conditioning - which by my humble experience tends to be a point of contention with female passengers) ;)

(of course I hate to lose a Jazz owner to the HR-V, but - hey - at least it's still a Honda) :D


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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2025, 09:38:30 PM »
My guess is that Crosstar has a different rear bumber than the Jazz, and for some strange reason Honda didn't add the blind spot sensors to the Crosstar's rear bumper. I guess the cross traffic monitor uses the same sensors, which is also why cross traffic monitor is not found on the Crosstar.

Also I believe that Crosstar rides only 1 cm higher than the Jazz, because Crosstar has larger diameter tyres. Instead of buying Crosstar, it could be more affordable to just put larger diameter tyres on a regular Jazz, if they fit. I think they should fit, as I think the wheel wells have similar internal space in both cars. But this is just my guess, I haven't double checked with a measuring tape.
I used to have a Crosstar, it definitely feels higher than the Sport model I've got now, it also felt a bit larger inside width-wise.

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2025, 10:04:31 PM »
My guess is that Crosstar has a different rear bumber than the Jazz, and for some strange reason Honda didn't add the blind spot sensors to the Crosstar's rear bumper. I guess the cross traffic monitor uses the same sensors, which is also why cross traffic monitor is not found on the Crosstar.

Also I believe that Crosstar rides only 1 cm higher than the Jazz, because Crosstar has larger diameter tyres. Instead of buying Crosstar, it could be more affordable to just put larger diameter tyres on a regular Jazz, if they fit. I think they should fit, as I think the wheel wells have similar internal space in both cars. But this is just my guess, I haven't double checked with a measuring tape.
I used to have a Crosstar, it definitely feels higher than the Sport model I've got now, it also felt a bit larger inside width-wise.
I think the Sport has slightly lowered and stiffened suspension

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2025, 07:24:32 PM »
The older Crosstar didn't have cross-traffic and blind spot radar sensors either. Perhaps because of the different bumper but perhaps also because of the sub-woofer speaker system in the boot side panel. Although Honda no longer fit this to the latest Crosstar, it appears they didn't replace it with the radar.

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2025, 10:09:13 AM »
The new model Crosstar does have heated steering wheel which the original didn't

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Re: Crosstar blind spot detection
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2025, 10:12:09 AM »
My guess is that Crosstar has a different rear bumber than the Jazz, and for some strange reason Honda didn't add the blind spot sensors to the Crosstar's rear bumper. I guess the cross traffic monitor uses the same sensors, which is also why cross traffic monitor is not found on the Crosstar.

Also I believe that Crosstar rides only 1 cm higher than the Jazz, because Crosstar has larger diameter tyres. Instead of buying Crosstar, it could be more affordable to just put larger diameter tyres on a regular Jazz, if they fit. I think they should fit, as I think the wheel wells have similar internal space in both cars. But this is just my guess, I haven't double checked with a measuring tape.
I used to have a Crosstar, it definitely feels higher than the Sport model I've got now, it also felt a bit larger inside width-wise.
I think the Sport has slightly lowered and stiffened suspension
The Sport does have slightly stiffer suspension, I think it's only lowered very slightly due to the lower profile tyres

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