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AlexWhite

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Tyre pressure question.
« on: November 27, 2024, 04:04:43 PM »
Hi all, just got a new tyre pump and went out to    check my tyres. Car has not been used for couple of days and it's pretty cold out there. Anyway, they all needed around another 4 psi to get them to the right pressure.

After I'd done this I recall someone mentioning something about tyre inflation in cold weather so I looked into it more. Seems that the initial reading when cold would naturally be a lot lower.

So, I'm now concerned that when I start driving and they get warm they will actually be over inflated by up to 4 psi each ?!?!

But the advice is to inflate when cold isn't it,?

Help, I'm confused. 😕


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Re: Tyre pressure question.
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2024, 04:08:22 PM »
keep tyres at recommended pressure per label inside door, regardless pf amn
bient tmeperatre and set when tyres cold.

Regardless of what all the "experts" on here say follow this and do not over/under inflate.
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Re: Tyre pressure question.
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2024, 05:33:59 PM »
Its probably better to think of pressure 'when cold'  to mean before the tyre has warmed up more from being driven   Not the ambient air temperature due to summer/winter..   It is expected pressure  will rise maybe a couple of psi as the tyres warm up from being driven.  For example the ideal pressure might be 37 psi with warmed tyres.  To achieve consistency  you put 35 psi in 'when cold - ie before driving .  If you checked them when 'hot' from being  driven they might read 37 psi. If you  reduced pressure to  35 psi its now too low .It will only be 33psi when the tyres have cooled again.       

Air temperature can affect air pressure but its best to ignore this  . Cold winter air is denser than hot summer air  so the same quantity of warm summer air in a tyre will take up less space  when it has cooled to winter temperatures. (and vice versa. )  But  in reality  the tyre loses some air pressure anyway over the weeks  between summer and winter   . Your 4 psi was probably 2 psi due to normal leakage  and 2 psi because the air density  is colder.  Its good enough just to maintain the recommended pressure all year round measured before driving.   
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AlexWhite

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Re: Tyre pressure question.
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2024, 08:31:12 PM »
Ah, thank you, basically what I thought. I keep tools and stuff in the car so like all the tyres to be at 33psi, which is where I put them today. Looks like I'm best dropping them to 31, before I even start the car tomorrow.

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Re: Tyre pressure question.
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2024, 09:21:45 AM »
I tend not to worry about  + /- the odd psi.
Trouble is on the MKIII (67) plate Jazz the TP warning does 'worry' about small changes!
If ignored ('cos its wet /cold /late at night / motorway, etc out there), it might be the one time that a tyre has a real problem. :-{(

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Re: Tyre pressure question.
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2024, 11:28:17 AM »
Most garage pressures guage are never checked majority under u
Inflate

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Re: Tyre pressure question.
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2024, 04:07:51 PM »
Most garage pressures guage are never checked majority under u
Inflate
True.....
Any thoughts on the gauge calibration of the Honda Inflator? (which also pumps sealant into flat tyre)

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Re: Tyre pressure question.
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2024, 02:47:51 PM »
Ah, thank you, basically what I thought. I keep tools and stuff in the car so like all the tyres to be at 33psi, which is where I put them today. Looks like I'm best dropping them to 31, before I even start the car tomorrow.

The  2 psi increase in  warmed tyres was only an estimate by me  to illustrate the point.  I think its in the right ball park   but the increase could be more ,or less, depending on distance driven, driving through bends, your speed, air temperature changes during the day etc.  You shouldnt use it as a reason to deduct 2 psi.

If you have arrived at your own preferred pressure of 33psi all round  through actual experience of better ride or other  advantages   then fair enough  (although the recommendation normally has a higher pressure front than rear.)  But when testing  performance did you always measure it as 33 psi with the tyres already warmed - eg after driving to a garage air line?     If not you shouldnt be reducing to 31 psi 'when cold.

If you have chosen 33 psi just because  its more in keeping with pressures that were recommended in the  past  then maybe re think your motives.

As others have said  there is a lot of inconsistency in accuracy between garage  air lines, portable inflators , and separate pressure gauges.  Including those  supplied by Honda   or even between  different examples of the same make of pump/gauge.   A reading that is inaccurate by a couple of psi either way  may still be acceptable as long as consistently reads equally wrong for all tyres.  I try to compare a new pump or gauge against others  . For instance if I know it  consistently reads 2 psi lower than the others  but otherwise a good bit of kit  I might still use it  but up my target  pressure reading by 2 psi. 
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