Mk4 issues

[tonytan]

Can someone advise me whether the "brake hold" button can be set in a default mode i.e when turned on will remain on regardless of whether the ignition is turned off. I find that at the moment if I want to use the brake hold function it has to be turned on at every journey after the ignition has been turned off. I know there is a setting where you can have the handbrake automatically applied whenever the ignition is turned off but that function is obviously different from brake hold.

[5thcivic]

It must be manually set, even then it will switch off after about 10 mins or so of stationary so there must be some safety reason behind it.

[Hicardo]

Love brake hold, never found it to be a problem in 3 years of owning the Crosstar

[aphybrid]

I think I read it is on by default on ZRV?

[Kremmen]

I've already posted a few times why I don't use it

[shufty]

I think I read it is on by default on ZRV?

...And Hr-v.

It makes a huge difference not having to manually engage it from start up, way more than you'd think.

[aphybrid]

thoroughly agree with shufty, would prefer it by default

[Nicksey]

Agree with Kremen, never use it. There is nothing wrong with applying the handbrake as I was taught to do.

[Jazzik]

There is nothing wrong with applying the handbrake as I was taught to do.

And as I was taught to do too.... some 57 years ago when no one had ever heard of 'Brake Hold'....
But the times they are a-changin', Bob Dylan already knew in 1964. 

[Kremmen]

In my book it's all a matter of courtesy to the vehicle occupants behind

[Hicardo]

If I was behind me, it wouldn't bother me 

[shufty]

In my book it's all a matter of courtesy to the vehicle occupants behind

...Nothing to do with being courteous to others behind and not dazzling them.

We're not talking about night time driving just the convenience and safety of brake hold being on before you put on the electronic handbrake.

 You don't need it if you are only stopping for a short while, so your hand shouldn't have to leave the steering wheel to activate the 'handbrake' and it would stop you from having to look down for it if you needed to anyway.

I can't see why people are against using it as it's a safety feature that works well.
I use it all the time obviously but it doesn't stop me using the 'handbrake' at all.
It's not a one or the other situation.

[Lord Voltermore]

I am a great fan of brake hold ,when it is appropriate to use it. Which in my opinion is most of the time.

But I dont think there should be an option in settings so it is 'always on' at start up .
 Its very easy to select or deselect brake hold  . And by having to do so  ,each and every driver who uses the car  will be reminded that they have deliberately chosen to use a function that may not be appropriate in all circumstances.   

[Kremmen]

In my book it's all a matter of courtesy to the vehicle occupants behind

...Nothing to do with being courteous to others behind and not dazzling them.

It is to me, I don't like it with 3 high intensity LED's so I don't do it to others

But, it's there, so if you like it and don't care about those behind then use it

..... and if you see another Jazz who's pulled up about a car and a half length behind it could be me

[shufty]

...In the middle of the day you are not going to get dazzled but as that isn't the topic and as I keep saying it's nothing to do with that as I still use the 'handbrake' at junctions if I'm not moving in a timely fashion.

You keep going on about those behind so I see you're not getting the point.
Do as you wish 

I give up, some people are so set in their ways. I realise some of you have been driving years before many of us were born but we have moved on. Cars have moved on.
I don't understand why some of you have bought a car with so many things on it that you switch of or just don't use. Seems a waste of money. Glad it's not mine