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Tombola

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Jazz Wheel size
« on: August 17, 2024, 01:35:32 PM »
The Honda configurator for the Jazz Advance shows wheels are 185/60 R16 86H, is this the case as I have seen pictures of Jazz wheels with 185/55 R16 tyres fitted 

corbett

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Re: Jazz Wheel size
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2024, 02:39:28 PM »
My 22 yr jazz ex has
185 55  r16 87h
Looking to change to all season tyres later this year
due to my frequent trips to the peak district to see relatives.
Just checking this forum for recommendations at the moment.

Marco1979

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Re: Jazz Wheel size
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2024, 03:00:42 PM »
185 60 R16 is for the Crosstar.
185 55 R16 is for the other types.

Tombola

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Re: Jazz Wheel size
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2024, 03:08:21 PM »
« Last Edit: August 17, 2024, 03:12:21 PM by Tombola »

corbett

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Re: Jazz Wheel size
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2024, 03:56:56 PM »
Watch out for the load rating such as 87 on my ex
If getting new tyres
I fancied some Michelin cross climate 2 as replacements, however these have a load rating of 83,
Checked checked on internet with tyre retailers
Apparently it's illegal to have a lower rating than recommended, can invalid your insurance, and could be dangerous due to weight limitations
Ok to have a higher load rating though
I wasn't aware of this until I did some checking

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Re: Jazz Wheel size
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2024, 05:17:40 PM »
Watch out for the load rating such as 87 on my ex
To my understanding, a load rating as low as 82 (475 kg per tyre) would be acceptable in Jazz, because the maximum permissible axle load of Jazz is 946 kg on the front axle. This load is carried by two tyres, so each front tyre needs to carry 473 kg. And load rating 82 (475 kg) is 2 kg above that minimum requirement.

Tyres with a low load rating would be more comfortable over bumps.
But tyres with a higher load rating would be more durable.

Although 15 inch wheels are not officially recommended for Crosstar, I've been driving my Crosstar with 195/65R15 tyres on 6x15" ET50 wheels and haven't noticed any problems.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2024, 05:32:49 PM by ahavoja »

corbett

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Re: Jazz Wheel size
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2024, 06:04:17 PM »
Can't argue with you
on the points you made. I have no technical knowledge.
However I know that insurance companies will find any way to avoid a payout.
Not sure if I'm willing to take the risk, so will probably stick to the tyre specs fitted

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Re: Jazz Wheel size
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2024, 07:55:56 PM »
Hello,
it is forbidden to fit tires with load indexes lower than what is written on the registration document,
the risks are:
fine by the police and withdrawal of the registration document (the withdrawal is here in Italy but I think it is throughout Europe)
insurance that may not cover you in the event of an accident
car that does not pass the test

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Re: Jazz Wheel size
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2024, 08:57:53 AM »
My 22 yr jazz ex has
185 55  r16 87h
Looking to change to all season tyres later this year
due to my frequent trips to the peak district to see relatives.
Just checking this forum for recommendations at the moment.

There are a lot of interesting points raised on this thread and I may add to them later.     

As to all season tyre choice the first problem is that cars made in Asia tend to have tyre sizes that are less common in Europe.  Hardly any are available in 185/60/R16  (as used on the Crossar)  but fortunately a larger choice  is available in 185/55/R16  (but not the Goodyear Vector 3's I use  on 15" wheels) 

Check out this list from MyTyres
https://www.mytyres.co.uk/search?sortCode=none&itemsPerPage=28&minPrice=&maxPrice=&season=GAN&width=185&profile=55&size=16&speedRating=&loadIndex=&brand=&priceCategory=recommended&clientReviewsRating=&runflat=&reinforced=&cTire=&rimProtection=&sealLayer=&noiseReduction=&electricVehicle=&businessReviews=false&vehicleTypes=PKW&vehicleTypes=RACE_PKW&vehicleTypes=LLKW&vehicleTypes=VINTAGE_PKW&vehicleTypes=OFF

All the tyres are rated at  recommended  87 loading, except , as others have pointed out the Michelin Crossclimate 2's. which is only 83  . (and at £151 very expensive in this size)    If i had to chose i would go for the Vredestein Quatracs at £108, which have good reviews from some users on this site.

The tyre market is fast moving. TCrossclimate 2's were the bees knees a couple of years ago, but are possibly now obsolete.  EV's and  hybrids have  very high torque and benefit from  stronger side walls. The tyres I currently use  (Goodyear Vector 3's ) are now marketed as being "EVR" -   suitable for EV's and Hybrids.    I dont know if they have been  upgraded to achieve this, or were always suitable and the new EVR rating is sales hype.   
I think there may be a Crossclimate 3  soon which may address the issue. But the less common sizes may not appear until later, if at all. l.     I think Michelin have differed from all other tyre makers in claiming they have good snow traction even with only 1.6mm of tread  .But many countries have a legal minimum  f 3mm or even 4mm in the winter anyway  despite Michelins claims.   Perhaps their more squishy side walls helps here, but not with high torque  EV's and hybrids.
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