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Lord Voltermore

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Re: Spacesaver spare wheel
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2024, 03:11:54 PM »
In this situation of a slowish puncture, and you decide to carefully drive on to the next (motorway) services, I had heard that the breakdown companies won’t attend; as they would if you are on the hard shoulder.

I would love to have this possible myth dismantled!

As I have not yet experienced this dire situation far from home yet (fingers crossed!) I cannot tell you about the demeanour of breakdown companies.
My only "slow puncture" so far occured only five miles from home and I was able to go to the tyre shop of my choice and they were like: "What do you want? - Everything looks okay!" - Yes - That's because I inflated the tyre before I drove to you!

Turned out there was a screw in the tyre and they were able to remove it and safely fix the puncture because I didn't apply the gunk.

So, I'm a bit at a loss regarding the "myth" part of your posting - care to clarify?




The “myth” part of my post, was that the services were not classed as the highway for breakdown assist, and a removal truck would be required, (at a cost), for onward travel to a garage for repair.

I await the thoughts of others.
A myth I think.  If you have a breakdown service that would attend attend for a puncture why wouldnt they do so in a service area?  Or would they not attend either if you were  stranded in a town centre car park, rural layby etc .If  so what use are they?   

 They will sometimes prioritise those broken down in a vulnerable location or  vulnerable persons, but personaly I'd rather be somewhere safe even if the wait is longer.   You may also be thinking of the 'free recovery' provided by highways agency  to recover vehicles broken down in motorway contraflows etc.  These wouldnt help you at a service area,  or  even if you had a puncture in the contraflow. They would just recover your car to their depot as per their contract.  They wouldnt fix your tyre  - unless you paid them. You'd still have  to arrange  your own tyre repair, maybe by calling the AA etc to the depot..       

Incidentally in some countries this is always the case  on motorways, even if you are on the hard shoulder.
 Only the  officially approved and fully marked  recovery agents are allowed to attend.  They will recover you to their depot (or deal with a quick fix)  but charge you a fee. If you are still in need of assistance and have your own recovery service, they attend the depot and take over.  And probably refund the fee you had to pay the approved agent. 
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Re: Spacesaver spare wheel
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2024, 06:03:24 PM »
No fixing point to secure the Space Saver Wheel which would mean that if you left it in for a MOT, it would fail. Is that right?.

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Re: Spacesaver spare wheel
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2024, 10:03:41 AM »
No fixing point to secure the Space Saver Wheel which would mean that if you left it in for a MOT, it would fail. Is that right?.
I dont think it could fail the mot .
From the MOT testers manual  - section 5.2.2 wheels  and 5.2.3 tyres-   only those fitted to the car at the time of the test  are subject to inspection. No requirement to inspect the spare so they probably wouldnt even look,  and if they did happen to  notice a defect its an advisory only. 

As far as I can see the only MOT requirement for a spare wheel to be secure is  under section 6.1.5  which applies only to EXTERNAL spare wheel carriers.  (eg a spare bolted on the outside of a 4x4 etc  , or as was the case with some older cars , where the spare is carried in a cradle which is literally hooked up underneath the car - externally.      It wouldnt apply to wheels in an internal wheel well - unless the boot floor was so rusty it could fall through onto the road.  Its  still advisable to bolt it down for safety, but that could equally apply to many other items you might carry in the car.  (eg a laptop , or a dog  ;D

If the tester is concerned it may be an advisory, or at worst you can immediately  remove it from the car and thereby  pass the test.   ;)

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles
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Re: Spacesaver spare wheel
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2024, 10:29:33 AM »
If a spare wheel was in the boot with the rear seats in their normal position I can't see how that would be under MOT scrutiny

I can think of a lot worse in the boot like a box of heavy tools
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Spacesaver spare wheel
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2024, 11:48:31 AM »
I carry a full size spare in the boot, if I keep the car long enough to see a MOT I will simply remove it on the day

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Re: Spacesaver spare wheel
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2024, 12:54:50 PM »
After suffering a puncture within a week of owning my Jazz I now keep a digital tyre pressure gauge and cordless tyre inflator in the little cubbyhole under the boot floor

Gauge:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0CNCQ4GLQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Inflator:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0CL2MDL43?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

If I’d had the inflator I could have pumped up the tyre that had the slow puncture to get to my local Honda dealer rather than calling Honda Assistance

I know there’s a compressor in the Jazz boot but it’s still wrapped in plastic from new and didn’t want to disturb it

The cordless inflator above is an excellent bit of kit and only £20

« Last Edit: December 29, 2024, 12:57:19 PM by ninanina »

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