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Kremmen

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2026, 12:06:03 PM »
Dashcam Viewer was my goto program

Good footage with all data and it showed you were you were at any time on a map
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2026, 12:18:48 PM »
I have a MK3 so no ACC, just CC so it will keep constant speed and drive into the back of someone if I'm not paying attention. I suppose the Collision Detection would step in at that point as I think it's the only override system on the car. It has lane keeping too, but it only makes a noise rather than taking any corrective action so I tend to keep it turned off

The other week I was driving in town and passed a 30 sign which had been vandalized with spray paint so the car read it as 80 in the information display which isn't even a valid UK speed limit.

I did wonder if the car was self-driving if it would have sped off at that speed through town!

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2026, 05:18:43 PM »
... I suppose the Collision Detection would step in at that point as I think it's the only override system on the car...

Careful. The Forward Collision Warning system on the Mk 3 does not override the driver and operate the brakes if it detects a possible collision, it simply gives a warning. The system that actively intervenes is the City-Brake Active System, which only operates at low speed (<20mph). Confusingly, both give the same indication in the multi-function display, so it may not be clear which one has operated. Refer to pages 428 and 450 of the Owner's Manual

NathanC67

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2026, 05:47:53 PM »
... I suppose the Collision Detection would step in at that point as I think it's the only override system on the car...

Careful. The Forward Collision Warning system on the Mk 3 does not override the driver and operate the brakes if it detects a possible collision, it simply gives a warning. The system that actively intervenes is the City-Brake Active System, which only operates at low speed (<20mph). Confusingly, both give the same indication in the multi-function display, so it may not be clear which one has operated. Refer to pages 428 and 450 of the Owner's Manual
Thanks. I wouldn't have waited (or trusted) for it to kick in anyway.

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2026, 09:26:18 PM »
There are a few odd things happening in my expereince f- rom time to time.  To be fair to all car makers, i doubt if they can account for every eventuality in the software programming.  My expereince of about 50K in 2 MK4's is that i think the behaviour of the ADAS systems are generally good, better with the 2025 than the 2021 however.  As i use the systems a lot, even on A roads at low to fast speeds, im a fan, but i keep my thumb near the cancel button when on radar cruise, just in case.  I do get use to overridding manually from time to time, and its sort of second nature now. 

Count yourself lucky - before the Crosstar, i had a Golf MK 8 - that was just plain dangerous. The most worrying: it used to sometimes flip flop between identifying my car as a right hand drive or a left hand drive!!  Seriously.  The software did not allow you to undertake on a dual c or motorway.  This meant that it wouldnt allow you to overtake normally when the cruise was engaged...absolutely infuriating - But the absolute worst was when the entire system decided to crash in the middle of the Dartford tunnel, and give a loud siren warning that the engine was about to fail.  Scared the @@@@ out of me. Then issue cleared itself a minute later.  No VW's for me again. 

Honda is a benign pussycat compared to this!

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2026, 09:29:31 PM »
I do think you should be able to easily disable these systems, especially if like my wife, you just want to simply drive a car like you always have, and are afraid of all these automated interventions.  Just froma. safety perspective, it makes sense to disable for a lot of people, they do more harm than good. 

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #51 on: August 01, 2026, 10:35:57 PM »
Just froma. safety perspective, it makes sense to disable for a lot of people, they do more harm than good.
It's been quite some time since I've passed my driver's test. - Of course, I - at least - try to keep up with modern regulations (and find that I'm using indicators far more frequently than "modern" drivers).

I do agree that some of the now mandatory assistants can appear as somewhat over the top in certain conditions (like eg RDMS on narrow country lanes or the speed warnings in Switzerland).
These are simply teething problems of a new technology (in the case of narrow country lanes) and simply the proof of sheer regulatory incompetence (speed signs in Switzerland)!

Although, if you habitually turn off all of these (security) enhancements, you are imho also giving up on the added safety and comfort they can provide.
I have to admit that having the RDMS active all of the time has tought me to better keep to my lane and not cutting inside turns.

I do simply adore the relaxing effect of the lane keeping assistant (the one you have to activate manually - not to be confused with RDMS) on my longer road trips!

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2026, 12:08:07 PM »
I sometimes hear bings and bongs, have a quick look at the screen and have no idea why the car made the noise.
 I have reduced the alarm volume to the minimum. This also reduces the volume of the indicators and parking sensors but they are still loud enough to hear and the other warning noises are less intrusive.

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Re: Startling experience
« Reply #53 on: Today at 09:06:28 PM »
I can deal with safety systems alarming, bonging , my missus however can't - therefore we need a way to turn them off or she wont drive.  Some people just cant get to used to these things.  They see it as another 10 things they have to think about whilst the mind is already fully occupied with normal driving activities.  Rightly or wrongly, there's a lot of people out there like this. 

IF (like Toyota) Honda can get to the point where the software can handle (say) a wide tractor coming the other way on a tight lane, and not try to steer you into it, then fine.  It CAN be done, i dont turn off any "safety devices" on our Aygo X, and its just about OK.  I dont think about it from day to day so it must be fairly good. But on the Jazz, for us, close not quite there yet on the ADAS front

Still love the Crosstar - despite this. 

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