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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2022, 02:37:30 PM »
Road surfaces are about to get worse! Rural local authorities have had their funding for pothole repairs slashed for 2022/23 while £5bn has been allocated to urban and cities, inevitably more cycle lanes and no-go for motorists roads while rural roads revert to farm tracks and pot-holed nightmares.
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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2022, 02:52:27 PM »
I think I said before I once has a silly  thought when driving my old Yaris that the RDMS was well controlled.  Of course it is, there isnt any. It will never do anything to  stop me driving into a ditch.

VSA ( vehicle stability assist ) may stop you driving into a ditch if road conditions too bad for speed you are going and car starts to skid,  the VSA looks at position of steering wheels relative to accelerometers saying which way car is actually moving and selectively applies brakes to straighten up the car)  but RDMS ? Nah-- when the car is traveling sideways it can beep all it wants and rattle the steering till the cows come home, you will still end up in the ditch.  And LKS,  good  luck with finding decent lane markings on most rural roads... especially around by us. What is really needed is a pothole avoidance system, to save me spending more time inspecting the road surface than is healthy when driving.
I didnt mean things like VSA  (which the 2007 Yaris doesnt have either)  controlling the cars handling if alert but silly me over cooks it for the conditions.. But its nice to have that too. 

I mean things that might just  stop me dying  in my sleep due to inattention while driving . Not something I plan on doing of course.   

 As  a motorcyclist I pay  more attention to the condition of the road surface,camber etc  than many car drivers and dont regard it as time wasted . And makes it less likely I will need VSA .
In some  ways its better to expect there to be potholes than to be caught out by the occasional unexpected  one.
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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2022, 02:52:47 PM »
Road surfaces are about to get worse! Rural local authorities have had there funding for pothole repairs slashed for 2022/23 while £5bn has been allocated to urban and cities, inevitably more cycle lanes and no-go for motorists roads while rural roads revert to farm tracks and pot-holed nightmares.
It's always nice to know that when I check the latest posts on this forum there will always be something to cheer me up.  :-[
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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2022, 04:01:42 PM »
Road surfaces are about to get worse! Rural local authorities have had there funding for pothole repairs slashed for 2022/23 while £5bn has been allocated to urban and cities, inevitably more cycle lanes and no-go for motorists roads while rural roads revert to farm tracks and pot-holed nightmares.
It's always nice to know that when I check the latest posts on this forum there will always be something to cheer me up.  :-[
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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2022, 04:40:09 PM »
I accept that RDMS is probably OK on motorways and similar roads, but on narrow country lanes, I believe it is downright dangerous.
Many times, when pulling close to the verge to miss an approaching car, I've had the RDMS try to steer me into the path of that approaching car, not funny at all!!
We certainly need the option to enable/disable RDMS, as required, by the driver.

To the guys who think RDMS is acceptable, one question.
Do you ever drive on narrow country roads????
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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2022, 05:24:29 PM »
To the guys who think RDMS is acceptable, one question.
Do you ever drive on narrow country roads????

Not that often, but still too often...  ;D
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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2022, 05:51:44 PM »
I think I could live with the visual and audible alarms. It's the twitch on the steering wheel that is unacceptable. For me it's like your passenger leaning across and grabbing the wheel.

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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2022, 06:30:45 PM »
It's the twitch on the steering wheel that is unacceptable. For me it's like your passenger leaning across and grabbing the wheel.

It's only LIKE your passenger is leaning across and grabbing the wheel. In my opinion that passenger is not extremely strong, so far I beat him/her easily...
By the way... driving on (sometimes very) narrow country roads, encountering an oncoming vehicle, I slow down. Often below 30 km/h (18 mph) and then RDMS is not activated.
If the circumstances are such that a higher speed is not dangerous, I tap the indicator and see: then no RDMS tries to intervene.

I have (very quickly) learned to live with RDMS and I also regularly use the Lane Keeping Assist System that you can switch off with 1 push of a button, if desired.
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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2022, 07:02:39 PM »
I think I could live with the visual and audible alarms. It's the twitch on the steering wheel that is unacceptable. For me it's like your passenger leaning across and grabbing the wheel.

Totally agree with that statement.
It is said that the system starts to operate at 45mph and above, I can tell you that on my car it continues to operate, at least down to 20mph and possibly lower.
Now, I believe RDMS on the HRV model, can be set to 'Warning Only'? If that is the case, then why is it acceptable to NCAP, to permit that condition on HRV, but not on Jazz, or are Honda making up the rules as they go along?

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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2022, 07:10:27 PM »
...Your LKAS continues working below 40mph?
The two white 'lane' lines stay white and are not greyed out?


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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2022, 07:15:27 PM »
I mostly indicate when crossing the white line, more so since I got this car.
You should indicate well in advance of crossing the white line.  Indicators - there is a clue in the name, they should be used to indicate your intention to others before starting a manoeuvre.  It irritates me when driving down the motorway that a cars indicator starts to flash as it crosses, or even after it has crossed, the white line; utterly useless.

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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2022, 07:26:09 PM »
It is said that the system starts to operate at 45mph and above, I can tell you that on my car it continues to operate, at least down to 20mph and possibly lower.

Maybe read page 481: https://www.honda.co.uk/cars/owners/manuals-and-guides/honda-owners-manuals/_jcr_content/par1/textcolumnwithimagem_1653971839/textColumn/richtextdownload_90f/file.res/2021%20Jazz%20Owner%60s%20Manual.pdf

By the way, I'm wondering if I read all the comments here if you have selected early, normal or delayed. See pages 479 and 154/155.
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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2022, 07:32:32 PM »
Strange behaviour
When I tried to use RDMS with “close” settings it’s less prone to stopping working just adjusting me more frequently and more gentle. When “normal” settings used system failing every time I drive near bus station (no special marks here only space for stopping buses near lane), “far” settings leave  me without  annoying adjustments or self killing RDMS, when I changing lane without signaling it’s simple moving slightly left and right the steering wheel, only once adjusted me in town when system judge that I driving into  the flowerbed separating lanes.

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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2022, 07:34:45 PM »
Strange behaviour
When I tried to use RDMS with “early” settings it’s less prone to stopping working just adjusting me more frequently and more gentle. When “normal” settings used system failing every time I drive near bus station (no special marks here only space for stopping buses near lane), “delayed ” settings leave  me without  annoying adjustments or self killing RDMS, when I changing lane without signaling it’s simple moving slightly left and right the steering wheel, only once adjusted me in town when system judge that I driving into  the flowerbed separating lanes.

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Re: Road departure warning
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2022, 07:56:09 PM »
...Your LKAS continues working below 40mph?
The two white 'lane' lines stay white and are not greyed out?

Road departure warning I understand as RDMS, not LKAS...
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