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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2021, 12:14:18 PM »
They are on the list, but only for 2020My

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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2021, 01:09:09 PM »
That's not what it is about... We are talking about "Assisted Driving Gradings".

https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/assisted-driving-gradings/

"On this page you will find the gradings of cars tested by Euro NCAP on automated driving technologies.

For its 2020 assessment of Highway Assist systems, Euro NCAP has developed dedicated test and assessment protocols, divided into two main areas: Assistance Competence, based on the balance between Driver Engagement and Vehicle Assistance, and Safety Backup."
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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2021, 01:46:27 PM »
That's not what it is about... We are talking about "Assisted Driving Gradings".

https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/assisted-driving-gradings/

"On this page you will find the gradings of cars tested by Euro NCAP on automated driving technologies.

For its 2020 assessment of Highway Assist systems, Euro NCAP has developed dedicated test and assessment protocols, divided into two main areas: Assistance Competence, based on the balance between Driver Engagement and Vehicle Assistance, and Safety Backup."

Yes, it’s a brand new test specifically for driver assistance systems.

It’s is addition to the normal star rating crash test.

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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2021, 01:48:53 PM »
There are 15 manufacturers on the list. Of those 15 only one model.
Why is Honda not on the list and why am I also missing the following brands?
Just a few examples:
Alfa Romeo
Chevrolet
Chrysler
Dacia  ;)
Hyundai
Kia
Maserati
Mazda
Mitsubishi
etcetera, etcetera?
Probably because some of them aren’t very good - in the video below when tested some cars automatic braking actually splatted the pedestrians compared to other manufacturers:


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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2021, 04:19:04 PM »
Its a pity they didnt show more cars rather than more   camera angles.

But do the cars that stop also give more  false alarms  . Better that than splattering pedestrians of course  but more owners may complain about it on reviews and forums.    While those who are unaware their car will splat the kid  wont complain until  it happens.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2021, 04:21:20 PM by Lord Voltermore »
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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2021, 05:31:48 PM »
Hopefully we will see more cars tested by NCAP for their safety sense systems.

The manufacturers go on about how great their systems are, so submitting them to NCAP for test would prove that.

Having a percentage performance number makes it easy to compare similar cars and choose the safest one.

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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2021, 04:10:17 AM »
It all depends on how NCAP test.

That shot above shows a very wide piece of pristine road.

Our problems are mainly road repair joins and narrow country roads. Plus, for me, its insistence that I indicate every manoeuvre even when I'm the only car on the road.
Let's be careful out there !

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Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2021, 04:32:21 AM »
I drove a VW T-Cross recently, it also tries to stop you crossing a mid lane merge line that you wouldn’t normally indicate for.

Unfortunately, I’d say the T-Cross steering ‘assist’ has maybe double the power of the Jazz - it’s a real fight!

I tried to register the Jazz safety sense with the DVSA but unfortunately as it is a switched system with a warning light it doesn’t qualify as a dangerous major defect requiring recall. I expect it’s the same for other manufacturers systems.
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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2021, 06:19:28 AM »
Probably because some of them aren’t very good - in the video below when tested some cars automatic braking actually splatted the pedestrians compared to other manufacturers:

Ford - Everything we do is driven by BOTH of you! Whoopsie!

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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2021, 09:40:18 AM »
Probably because some of them aren’t very good - in the video below when tested some cars automatic braking actually splatted the pedestrians compared to other manufacturers:

Ford - Everything we do is driven by BOTH of you! Whoopsie!

This is NOT a quote of what I wrote! That was Sportse:

Probably because some of them aren’t very good - in the video below when tested some cars automatic braking actually splatted the pedestrians compared to other manufacturers:

Please quote correctly....





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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2021, 09:47:44 AM »
Plus, for me, its insistence that I indicate every manoeuvre even when I'm the only car on the road.
That's how I was taught to drive.
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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2021, 10:42:25 AM »
I always indicate if necessary.

FYI unless you are indicating you won’t get the audio warning of someone sneaking up in your blind spots with the EX blind spot monitoring.

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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2021, 12:33:45 PM »
Plus, for me, its insistence that I indicate every manoeuvre even when I'm the only car on the road.
That's how I was taught to drive.

Never indicate unless another driver can be either helped or warned by my indicator.....  I never trust an indicator when I did not see it start flashing,  and even then take more notice of what the vehicle is doing than what its indicator says....  Call me an indicator sceptic, but then I ride motorbikes and have learned the hard way....
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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2021, 12:51:36 PM »
Plus, for me, its insistence that I indicate every manoeuvre even when I'm the only car on the road.
That's how I was taught to drive.

Never indicate unless another driver can be either helped or warned by my indicator.....  I never trust an indicator when I did not see it start flashing,  and even then take more notice of what the vehicle is doing than what its indicator says....  Call me an indicator sceptic, but then I ride motorbikes and have learned the hard way....
We already had this discussion but...
If you tell drivers that they do not always have to indicate they are likely to stop indicating alltogether;  just watch traffic and you'll see how that's panned out.
You cannot be sure that you have clocked every person who might need to know what you are about to do. One common problem for pedestrians is crossing a road near the exit from a roundabout.
I use hand signals on my classic motorbike. It makes me snarl when I'm able to signal by sticking my arm in to the breeze and car drivers cannot even move that plastic lever.  Yes, of course you must never take a signal for granted.
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Re: Semi-conductor shortage
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2021, 12:58:33 PM »
Never indicate unless another driver can be either helped or warned by my indicator.....  I never trust an indicator when I did not see it start flashing,  and even then take more notice of what the vehicle is doing than what its indicator says....  Call me an indicator sceptic, but then I ride motorbikes and have learned the hard way....

Let me guess...   Your car is a BMW or an Audi?
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