Semi-conductor shortage

[Karoq]

This in motoring press today.
Honda
A spokesperson said: 'Honda has been experiencing disruption in production since last year due to various factors including semiconductor shortage, logistics delays and the wider impact of the ongoing pandemic. However, for the European region, there is currently no significant impact on delivery times at this stage.

'For Honda UK, lead times vary across each product (but again not too dissimilar to pre-semi conductor shortage) – so for example, we have good stock on Jazz, for all-new HR-V, if you ordered now, you would receive the car in Jan 2022 (so circa three months), and Civic is on run out as the new Civic will be launched next year.'

[DERMOT]

Must be good for Honda to have made almost a year's worth of Civics before closing Swindon, and then see every other competitor struggle to make anything. Should be selling them without any discount.

[guest334]

Or kept the Swindon plant running.....

[DERMOT]

True. Imagine if we made engines, transmissions, ICs, wiring looms along with assembly in uk..

Intel Ireland will make the mobileye lidar units, and as Honda use mobileye (i think) for their vision, there will be one part made local (ish). Just it will be the one part that all the forum posters dislike.

[culzean]

Car makers shot themselves in the foot on this one, they take 'just in time' to the Nth degree and will not keep significant stock of anything.  As soon a car sales started to drop due to covid the car companies cancelled all the orders on firms in Taiwan ( a major source of car chips,  so don't go to Taiwan if you are fussy about you paintwork on your Jazz  ) and the companies turned production over to other chips..... now the car companies are crying,  but it is their own fault.

[richardfrost]

Just it will be the one part that all the forum posters dislike.

Not all, just a vocal minority.

[sportse]

Just it will be the one part that all the forum posters dislike.

Not all, just a vocal minority.

Has been a problem in the US for a few years, with legal actions:

http://www.hondaproblems.com/honda-sensing/

No issues with the safety sense on any other cars I’ve had from other manufacturers , just the Jazz.

It’s not a problem as I disable it/don’t use it every drive now. Other than that, the car is great.

[Kremmen]

I'd better refrain from posting again what I think  :'(

[sportse]

NCAP is going to include the performance of safety systems in its ratings soon.

[Kremmen]

How will they know ?

As proved here they are liked/disliked depending on circumstances.

[sportse]

There was an article in this weeks Auto Express - they are going to have various tests and also give a rating for how the systems work with the driver to either support or not.

One of the great things about my old car was the radar sensor that would protect you even in fog - camera based systems don’t work when they can’t see.

NCAP are going to look at how systems protect you in various conditions and how they tell the driver what’s happening.

[sportse]

Another article about the new ranking for car safety systems:

https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/10/flaws-in-advanced-driver-assistance-systems-revealed-by-new-car-safety-tests/

[sportse]

Honda not on the list of manufacturers with a rating:

https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/assisted-driving-gradings/

Why not?

[Jazzik]

There are 15 manufacturers on the list. Of those 15 only one model.
Why is Honda not on the list and why am I also missing the following brands?
Just a few examples:
Alfa Romeo
Chevrolet
Chrysler
Dacia 
Hyundai
Kia
Maserati
Mazda
Mitsubishi
etcetera, etcetera?

[Jocko]

Manufacturers have to put the vehicle forward for Euro NCAP testing. They do not test vehicles off their own back. Obviously, many manufacturers prefer to have no rating other than a bad rating.